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Posted to dev@xtable.apache.org by Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <jc...@apache.org> on 2024/09/04 19:45:43 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional step that
you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for an
official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do an
official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for 0.2.0?
Thanks,
Jesús
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not started in
> general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released to Maven
> Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in dev@xtable.apache.org
>
> The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are vague and
> mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the 0.1.0-incubating
> release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
>
> *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF policy
> violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request feedback by
> starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they prefer a
> "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which passes a vote
> by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
>
> Thanks
> Vinish
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
The invalid 0.1.0-incubating release was removed from Maven central. I
raised INFRA-26134 [1] to remove it from the Apache repos as well.
Note that the VOTE thread in general@incubator is still open and must
be closed. @Vinish can you please send a [CANCEL][VOTE] email with a
brief mention on why the vote is cancelled.
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-26134
On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 10:40 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
<jc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Vinish,
>
> Regarding v0.1.0, it seems there is a consensus in the thread to start the
> vote in general@incubator as soon as possible. If the vote doesn't pass, we
> will need to delete the download artifacts and sources, though we might not
> be able to do anything about the Maven central. I have checked the issues
> raised by pjmanning and I hope that the vote can still pass given the WIP
> disclaimer.
>
> As for v0.2.0, once we have addressed those release blocker issues, we
> should start a vote with the goal of making it the first non-WIP release.
>
> Thanks,
> Jesús
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 6:21 AM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > While the final discussion on general@incubator may take some time,
> > should we start a new release 0.2.0 ? I have marked the GH issues created
> > by IPMC member pjfanning with the label release-blocker 0.2.0
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-xtable/issues/created_by/pjfanning
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vinish
> >
> > On 2024/09/09 09:54:49 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
> > > I just started a thread about this issue in general@incubator [1].
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q3o2qr64k2bwwyd1hd79y43q12vwgh85
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:32 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Stamatis. You are right, after reading the thread again the
> > main
> > > > question is whether we should have published the artifacts on ASF as
> > part
> > > > of this WIP release without that IPMC vote, and perhaps we shouldn't
> > have.
> > > > We should check with the general incubator mailing list, as you
> > suggested.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jesús
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:33 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <zabetak@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
> > > > > my perspective it is an official ASF release.
> > > > > The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial
> > and
> > > > > there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by
> > a
> > > > > VOTE thread in general@incubator.
> > > > >
> > > > > An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
> > > > > (+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
> > > > > minimum is 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
> > > > > similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
> > > > > general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation
> > to
> > > > > decide how to move forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Stamatis
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > > > > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional
> > step that
> > > > > > you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> > > > > > However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for
> > an
> > > > > > official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do
> > an
> > > > > > official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for
> > 0.2.0?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Jesús
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not
> > > > > started in
> > > > > > > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released
> > to Maven
> > > > > > > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in
> > > > > dev@xtable.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > > > > > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are
> > > > > vague and
> > > > > > > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the
> > > > > 0.1.0-incubating
> > > > > > > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF
> > policy
> > > > > > > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request
> > feedback by
> > > > > > > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they
> > > > > prefer a
> > > > > > > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which
> > passes a
> > > > > vote
> > > > > > > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Vinish
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <jc...@apache.org>.
Hi Vinish,
Regarding v0.1.0, it seems there is a consensus in the thread to start the
vote in general@incubator as soon as possible. If the vote doesn't pass, we
will need to delete the download artifacts and sources, though we might not
be able to do anything about the Maven central. I have checked the issues
raised by pjmanning and I hope that the vote can still pass given the WIP
disclaimer.
As for v0.2.0, once we have addressed those release blocker issues, we
should start a vote with the goal of making it the first non-WIP release.
Thanks,
Jesús
On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 6:21 AM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> While the final discussion on general@incubator may take some time,
> should we start a new release 0.2.0 ? I have marked the GH issues created
> by IPMC member pjfanning with the label release-blocker 0.2.0
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-xtable/issues/created_by/pjfanning
>
> Thanks,
> Vinish
>
> On 2024/09/09 09:54:49 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
> > I just started a thread about this issue in general@incubator [1].
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q3o2qr64k2bwwyd1hd79y43q12vwgh85
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:32 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Stamatis. You are right, after reading the thread again the
> main
> > > question is whether we should have published the artifacts on ASF as
> part
> > > of this WIP release without that IPMC vote, and perhaps we shouldn't
> have.
> > > We should check with the general incubator mailing list, as you
> suggested.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jesús
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:33 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <zabetak@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > > The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
> > > > my perspective it is an official ASF release.
> > > > The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial
> and
> > > > there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by
> a
> > > > VOTE thread in general@incubator.
> > > >
> > > > An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
> > > > (+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
> > > > minimum is 3.
> > > >
> > > > I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
> > > > similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
> > > > general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation
> to
> > > > decide how to move forward.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stamatis
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > > > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
> > > > >
> > > > > For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional
> step that
> > > > > you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> > > > > However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for
> an
> > > > > official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do
> an
> > > > > official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for
> 0.2.0?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Jesús
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not
> > > > started in
> > > > > > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released
> to Maven
> > > > > > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in
> > > > dev@xtable.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > > > > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are
> > > > vague and
> > > > > > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the
> > > > 0.1.0-incubating
> > > > > > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF
> policy
> > > > > > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request
> feedback by
> > > > > > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they
> > > > prefer a
> > > > > > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which
> passes a
> > > > vote
> > > > > > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Vinish
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org>.
While the final discussion on general@incubator may take some time, should we start a new release 0.2.0 ? I have marked the GH issues created by IPMC member pjfanning with the label release-blocker 0.2.0
https://github.com/apache/incubator-xtable/issues/created_by/pjfanning
Thanks,
Vinish
On 2024/09/09 09:54:49 Stamatis Zampetakis wrote:
> I just started a thread about this issue in general@incubator [1].
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q3o2qr64k2bwwyd1hd79y43q12vwgh85
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:32 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Stamatis. You are right, after reading the thread again the main
> > question is whether we should have published the artifacts on ASF as part
> > of this WIP release without that IPMC vote, and perhaps we shouldn't have.
> > We should check with the general incubator mailing list, as you suggested.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jesús
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:33 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > > The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
> > > my perspective it is an official ASF release.
> > > The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial and
> > > there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by a
> > > VOTE thread in general@incubator.
> > >
> > > An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
> > > (+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
> > > minimum is 3.
> > >
> > > I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
> > > similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
> > > general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation to
> > > decide how to move forward.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Stamatis
> > >
> > > [1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
> > > >
> > > > For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional step that
> > > > you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> > > > However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for an
> > > > official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do an
> > > > official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for 0.2.0?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jesús
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not
> > > started in
> > > > > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released to Maven
> > > > > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in
> > > dev@xtable.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > > > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are
> > > vague and
> > > > > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the
> > > 0.1.0-incubating
> > > > > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> > > > >
> > > > > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF policy
> > > > > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request feedback by
> > > > > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they
> > > prefer a
> > > > > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which passes a
> > > vote
> > > > > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Vinish
> > > > >
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
I just started a thread about this issue in general@incubator [1].
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/q3o2qr64k2bwwyd1hd79y43q12vwgh85
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:32 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
<jc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Stamatis. You are right, after reading the thread again the main
> question is whether we should have published the artifacts on ASF as part
> of this WIP release without that IPMC vote, and perhaps we shouldn't have.
> We should check with the general incubator mailing list, as you suggested.
>
> Thanks,
> Jesús
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:33 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
> > my perspective it is an official ASF release.
> > The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial and
> > there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by a
> > VOTE thread in general@incubator.
> >
> > An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
> > (+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
> > minimum is 3.
> >
> > I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
> > similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
> > general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation to
> > decide how to move forward.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > [1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> > <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
> > >
> > > For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional step that
> > > you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> > > However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for an
> > > official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do an
> > > official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for 0.2.0?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jesús
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not
> > started in
> > > > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released to Maven
> > > > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in
> > dev@xtable.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are
> > vague and
> > > > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the
> > 0.1.0-incubating
> > > > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> > > >
> > > > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF policy
> > > > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request feedback by
> > > > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > > > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they
> > prefer a
> > > > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which passes a
> > vote
> > > > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Vinish
> > > >
> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Jesus Camacho Rodriguez <jc...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Stamatis. You are right, after reading the thread again the main
question is whether we should have published the artifacts on ASF as part
of this WIP release without that IPMC vote, and perhaps we shouldn't have.
We should check with the general incubator mailing list, as you suggested.
Thanks,
Jesús
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:33 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
> my perspective it is an official ASF release.
> The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial and
> there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by a
> VOTE thread in general@incubator.
>
> An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
> (+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
> minimum is 3.
>
> I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
> similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
> general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation to
> decide how to move forward.
>
> Best,
> Stamatis
>
> [1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
> <jc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
> >
> > For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional step that
> > you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> > However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for an
> > official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do an
> > official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for 0.2.0?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jesús
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not
> started in
> > > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released to Maven
> > > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in
> dev@xtable.apache.org
> > >
> > > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are
> vague and
> > > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the
> 0.1.0-incubating
> > > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> > >
> > > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF policy
> > > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request feedback by
> > > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they
> prefer a
> > > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which passes a
> vote
> > > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Vinish
> > >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Missed starting voting thread in general@incubator.apache.org for XTable release
Posted by Stamatis Zampetakis <za...@gmail.com>.
Hey everyone,
The release is staged and published [1] on ASF infrastructure so from
my perspective it is an official ASF release.
The fact that there is a WIP disclaimer doesn't make it unofficial and
there are many projects who have the WIP disclaimer and will pass by a
VOTE thread in general@incubator.
An additional problem is that the release received only 2 approval
(+1) votes from Incubator PMC members (Stamatis, Jesus) while the
minimum is 3.
I checked the archives of general@incubator but couldn't find a
similar situation in the past. I think we should reach out to
general@incubator ASAP and inform them about the current situation to
decide how to move forward.
Best,
Stamatis
[1] https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/xtable/0.1.0-incubating/
On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 9:48 PM Jesus Camacho Rodriguez
<jc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you for leading our first release, Vinish!
>
> For a WIP release, my understanding is that this is an optional step that
> you can go through to gather feedback from other IPMC members.
> However, note that going through an IPMC vote is a requirement for an
> official release. With that in mind, I’d suggest that we try to do an
> official ASF release as soon as possible. Is that the plan for 0.2.0?
>
> Thanks,
> Jesús
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 11:58 PM Vinish Reddy <vi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > As part of the 0.1.0-incubating release, a voting thread was not started in
> > general@incubator.apache.org and artifacts have been released to Maven
> > Central Repository after getting 4 binding votes in dev@xtable.apache.org
> >
> > The guidelines mentioned in the ASF website
> > <https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html> are vague and
> > mention we can start a DISCUSS thread for feedback on the 0.1.0-incubating
> > release. Any idea what can be done here as next steps ?
> >
> > *Podlings can use non-ASF releases as an opportunity to find ASF policy
> > violations and begin resolving them. Podlings can request feedback by
> > starting a "[DISCUSS]" thread on general@incubator.apache.org
> > <ge...@incubator.apache.org>. Podlings can decide whether they prefer a
> > "[DISCUSS]" thread or a "[VOTE]" thread. Only a release which passes a vote
> > by members of the IPMC is an official ASF release. *
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vinish
> >