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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com> on 2016/03/10 07:40:58 UTC
Fwd: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:41:51 +0600
From: Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
To: dev <de...@openmeetings.apache.org>
CC: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
I think it's a good idea to continue gsoc2015 direction for OM.
First of all we can change OM architecture from central server to p2p
and then use new protocols like QUIC or SCTP.
Using this we also save our ability save video on central server.
Central server will not only link clients, but also include itself in
connection.
And we also can support flash clinets too.
The protocols were developed for http 2 purposes and so using this
protocols will improve perfomance OM on andoid and desktop, as I can see
android is one of main architecture for OM.
What do you think?
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
<ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Am I right thinking no activity on the topic means, there are no
areas of
improvement in OpenMeetings?
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
<solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> GSOC 2016 is coming :)
> In case we would like to benefit from it we need to record GSOC
ideas for
> our project
>
> I would like to propose to discuss current list [1] and any
additional
> ideas in this thread
> Looking forward for you comments :)
>
> [1]
>
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-554?filter=12334770&jql=project%20%3D%20OPENMEETINGS%20AND%20labels%20%3D%20gsoc2016
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
--
Regards,
Dmitry Bezheckov.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I downloaded previous version on the site yesterday, but we have
enough time to make some changes.
I updated the proposal: https://dropmefiles.com/MUggI
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:20 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah it's already submitted. I will apply to mentor. We now need to wait how
> Google and ASF will evaluate it.
>
> 2016-03-25 10:14 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Dmitriy,
>>
>> looks all good. I think it's an interesting proposal and you seem to be
>> on a good way to achieve it. Ready to submit IMHO.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2016-03-25 8:51 GMT+13:00 <se...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> If you have added the points I think it's ready to submit to the GSoc
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 24/03/2016, at 9:16 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all, my proposal is here https://dropmefiles.com/c4rK2
>>> Fixes:
>>> - Expand tasks in timeline
>>> - Review timeline and include august
>>> - Add tools description
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:23 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
>>>> Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term
>>>> evaluation. Not finish of the project.
>>>> However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work
>>>> and clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till
>>>> evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and
>>>> me to understand some details.
>>>> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>>>>
>>>> End of the time line should be end of August.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in
>>>>> mind. Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in
>>>>> time. So please let me know once your done.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Sebastian
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>>>> video
>>>>>> between clients?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and
>>>>>> OpenMeetings :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hello Paul,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>>>> video
>>>>>> > between clients?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > Hello Paul,
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is
>>>>>> still in our
>>>>>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>>>>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>>>>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>>>>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <dima00782@gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > --
>>>>>> >> > WBR
>>>>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Regards,
Dmitry Bezheckov.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Ah it's already submitted. I will apply to mentor. We now need to wait how
Google and ASF will evaluate it.
2016-03-25 10:14 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Dmitriy,
>
> looks all good. I think it's an interesting proposal and you seem to be on
> a good way to achieve it. Ready to submit IMHO.
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> 2016-03-25 8:51 GMT+13:00 <se...@gmail.com>:
>
>> If you have added the points I think it's ready to submit to the GSoc
>> website.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 24/03/2016, at 9:16 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all, my proposal is here https://dropmefiles.com/c4rK2
>> Fixes:
>> - Expand tasks in timeline
>> - Review timeline and include august
>> - Add tools description
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:23 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> @Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
>>> Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term
>>> evaluation. Not finish of the project.
>>> However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work
>>> and clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till
>>> evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and
>>> me to understand some details.
>>> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>>>
>>> End of the time line should be end of August.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>>> :
>>>
>>>> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in
>>>> mind. Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in
>>>> time. So please let me know once your done.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>>>>
>>>>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>>> video
>>>>> between clients?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and
>>>>> OpenMeetings :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hello Paul,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>>> video
>>>>> > between clients?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > Hello Paul,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still
>>>>> in our
>>>>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>>>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>>>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>>>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > --
>>>>> >> > WBR
>>>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dmitriy,
looks all good. I think it's an interesting proposal and you seem to be on
a good way to achieve it. Ready to submit IMHO.
Thanks,
Sebastian
2016-03-25 8:51 GMT+13:00 <se...@gmail.com>:
> If you have added the points I think it's ready to submit to the GSoc
> website.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 24/03/2016, at 9:16 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all, my proposal is here https://dropmefiles.com/c4rK2
> Fixes:
> - Expand tasks in timeline
> - Review timeline and include august
> - Add tools description
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:23 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
>> Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term
>> evaluation. Not finish of the project.
>> However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work
>> and clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till
>> evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and
>> me to understand some details.
>> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>>
>> End of the time line should be end of August.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in mind.
>>> Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in time. So
>>> please let me know once your done.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hello Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>>>
>>>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>> video
>>>> between clients?"
>>>>
>>>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and
>>>> OpenMeetings :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello Paul,
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>>> video
>>>> > between clients?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Hello Paul,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still
>>>> in our
>>>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > WBR
>>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by se...@gmail.com.
If you have added the points I think it's ready to submit to the GSoc website.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 24/03/2016, at 9:16 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all, my proposal is here https://dropmefiles.com/c4rK2
> Fixes:
> - Expand tasks in timeline
> - Review timeline and include august
> - Add tools description
>
>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:23 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> @Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
>> Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term evaluation. Not finish of the project.
>> However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work and clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and me to understand some details.
>> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>>
>> End of the time line should be end of August.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
>>> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in mind. Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in time. So please let me know once your done.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Hello Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>>>
>>>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
>>>> between clients?"
>>>>
>>>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello Paul,
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
>>>> > between clients?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Hello Paul,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in our
>>>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > WBR
>>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry Bezheckov.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>.
Hello all, my proposal is here https://dropmefiles.com/c4rK2
Fixes:
- Expand tasks in timeline
- Review timeline and include august
- Add tools description
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:23 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
> Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term
> evaluation. Not finish of the project.
> However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work and
> clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till
> evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and
> me to understand some details.
> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
>
> End of the time line should be end of August.
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> 2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
>
>> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in mind.
>> Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in time. So
>> please let me know once your done.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hello Paul,
>>>
>>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>>
>>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>> video
>>> between clients?"
>>>
>>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello Paul,
>>> >
>>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>>> video
>>> > between clients?
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <
>>> solomax666@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hello Paul,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still
>>> in our
>>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > WBR
>>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Regards,
Dmitry Bezheckov.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
@Dmitriy: Also one more note: Your timeline is a bit off.
Your timeline end by end of July. But that is only the mid-term evaluation.
Not finish of the project.
However the program ends end of August. You are expected to still work and
clean up your code till 23/08. I would then have time till 29th till
evaluate, which basically also still means back and forth between you and
me to understand some details.
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
End of the time line should be end of August.
Thanks,
Sebastian
2016-03-24 10:45 GMT+13:00 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>:
> @Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in mind.
> Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in time. So
> please let me know once your done.
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> 2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>>
>> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
>> between clients?"
>>
>> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Paul,
>> >
>> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
>> video
>> > between clients?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, I'm interested.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello Paul,
>> >> >
>> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in
>> our
>> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>> >> >
>> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > WBR
>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
@Dmitriy: Please keep the deadline for submitting your proposal in mind.
Also I will need to accept your proposal via the GSoc website in time. So
please let me know once your done.
Thanks,
Sebastian
2016-03-22 22:29 GMT+13:00 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>:
> Hello Paul,
>
> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>
> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
> between clients?"
>
> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings :)
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Paul,
> >
> > Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
> > between clients?
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, I'm interested.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello Paul,
> >> >
> >> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in
> our
> >> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
> >> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
> >> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
> >> >
> >> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
> >> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > WBR
> >> > Maxim aka solomax
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Dmitry Bezheckov.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Mondain <mo...@gmail.com>.
I'll try to answer in-line as best as possible.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:29 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
>
> "Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares
> video between clients?"
>
> A facade is created to represent a webrtc publisher or subscriber on the
server, they are either sendonly or readonly via their sdp. Ice4j is used
in trickle mode to determine ip addresses and ports; all of that is
coordinated on the server and communicated via websocket. Any transcoding
or rtp/rtcp is handled via libjitsi.
> I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings :)
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
>> between clients?
>>
>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I'm interested.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello Paul,
>>> >
>>> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in
>>> our
>>> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>>> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>>> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>>> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > WBR
>>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Paul,
I'm forwarding you Dmitriy's question :))
"Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
between clients?"
I believe with your help we can add WebRTC to both red5 and OpenMeetings :)
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
> between clients?
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm interested.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Paul,
>> >
>> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in our
>> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
>> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
>> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>> >
>> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
>> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>.
Hello Paul,
Could you please describe how red5 used ice4j and how server shares video
between clients?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Mondain <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I'm interested.
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Paul,
> >
> > we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in our
> > list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
> > currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
> > I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
> > [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
--
Regards,
Dmitry Bezheckov.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Mondain <mo...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I'm interested.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:35 AM Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in our
> list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
> currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
> I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
> [2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Paul,
we currently discussing GSOC2016 ideas, and WebRTC stuff is still in our
list, are you interested in participating in discussion?
currently there are 2 threads: [1] and [2]
I believe you might ne interested in [1] :)
[1] http://markmail.org/thread/uw2y727szu3gchdk
[2] http://openmeetings.markmail.org/thread/tb2mtzeizfmtvcpa
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, it's great idea to add Paul.
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
high level description is OK with me
we can add Paul to the discussion, WDYT?
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> I think about it now.
> We can't remove central server in general, but we can distribute video and
> audio channel as Maxim said.
> I like to think that we have:
>
> 1. SCTP (GSOC 2015) for signaling
> 2. TURN[/STUN] server for NAT traversing (GSOC 2016)
> 3. SRTP protocol for secure sharing media (GSOC 2016)
>
>
> As I can see SRTP protocol has implemented in Java already (for example in
> jitsu -
> https://github.com/jitsi/libjitsi/tree/master/src/org/jitsi/impl/neomedia/transform/srtp
> )
>
> If this high-level description is OK, I can create issue in jira and write
> more detailed proposal.
>
> P.s. for second point exist ice4j library (GSOC 2014 - 2015), but I hasn't
> seen on this clearly yet.
>
> On 15.03.2016 03:15, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> your ideas are all very interesting, however to tailor a GSoC2016 project
>> out of it you have to choose something which will fit into the program of
>> a
>> few months of work.
>> And it will need a defined scope/requirement and success criteria.
>>
>> What is your exact proposal ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-10 19:40 GMT+13:00 Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
>>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:41:51 +0600
>>> From: Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>>> To: dev <de...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>> CC: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's a good idea to continue gsoc2015 direction for OM.
>>> First of all we can change OM architecture from central server to p2p and
>>> then use new protocols like QUIC or SCTP.
>>> Using this we also save our ability save video on central server. Central
>>> server will not only link clients, but also include itself in connection.
>>> And we also can support flash clinets too.
>>> The protocols were developed for http 2 purposes and so using this
>>> protocols will improve perfomance OM on andoid and desktop, as I can see
>>> android is one of main architecture for OM.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I right thinking no activity on the topic means, there are no
>>> areas of
>>> improvement in OpenMeetings?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hello All,
>>> >
>>> > GSOC 2016 is coming :)
>>> > In case we would like to benefit from it we need to record GSOC
>>> ideas for
>>> > our project
>>> >
>>> > I would like to propose to discuss current list [1] and any
>>> additional
>>> > ideas in this thread
>>> > Looking forward for you comments :)
>>> >
>>> > [1]
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-554?filter=12334770&jql=project%20%3D%20OPENMEETINGS%20AND%20labels%20%3D%20gsoc2016
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > WBR
>>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebastian,
I think about it now.
We can't remove central server in general, but we can distribute video
and audio channel as Maxim said.
I like to think that we have:
1. SCTP (GSOC 2015) for signaling
2. TURN[/STUN] server for NAT traversing (GSOC 2016)
3. SRTP protocol for secure sharing media (GSOC 2016)
As I can see SRTP protocol has implemented in Java already (for example
in jitsu -
https://github.com/jitsi/libjitsi/tree/master/src/org/jitsi/impl/neomedia/transform/srtp)
If this high-level description is OK, I can create issue in jira and
write more detailed proposal.
P.s. for second point exist ice4j library (GSOC 2014 - 2015), but I
hasn't seen on this clearly yet.
On 15.03.2016 03:15, seba.wagner@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> your ideas are all very interesting, however to tailor a GSoC2016 project
> out of it you have to choose something which will fit into the program of a
> few months of work.
> And it will need a defined scope/requirement and success criteria.
>
> What is your exact proposal ?
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> 2016-03-10 19:40 GMT+13:00 Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:41:51 +0600
>> From: Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
>> To: dev <de...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> CC: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's a good idea to continue gsoc2015 direction for OM.
>> First of all we can change OM architecture from central server to p2p and
>> then use new protocols like QUIC or SCTP.
>> Using this we also save our ability save video on central server. Central
>> server will not only link clients, but also include itself in connection.
>> And we also can support flash clinets too.
>> The protocols were developed for http 2 purposes and so using this
>> protocols will improve perfomance OM on andoid and desktop, as I can see
>> android is one of main architecture for OM.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Am I right thinking no activity on the topic means, there are no
>> areas of
>> improvement in OpenMeetings?
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > GSOC 2016 is coming :)
>> > In case we would like to benefit from it we need to record GSOC
>> ideas for
>> > our project
>> >
>> > I would like to propose to discuss current list [1] and any
>> additional
>> > ideas in this thread
>> > Looking forward for you comments :)
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-554?filter=12334770&jql=project%20%3D%20OPENMEETINGS%20AND%20labels%20%3D%20gsoc2016
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dmitry,
your ideas are all very interesting, however to tailor a GSoC2016 project
out of it you have to choose something which will fit into the program of a
few months of work.
And it will need a defined scope/requirement and success criteria.
What is your exact proposal ?
Thanks,
Sebastian
2016-03-10 19:40 GMT+13:00 Dmitry Bezheckov <di...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] GSOC 2016 ideas
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:41:51 +0600
> From: Dmitriy - <di...@gmail.com>
> To: dev <de...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> CC: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>
>
>
> I think it's a good idea to continue gsoc2015 direction for OM.
> First of all we can change OM architecture from central server to p2p and
> then use new protocols like QUIC or SCTP.
> Using this we also save our ability save video on central server. Central
> server will not only link clients, but also include itself in connection.
> And we also can support flash clinets too.
> The protocols were developed for http 2 purposes and so using this
> protocols will improve perfomance OM on andoid and desktop, as I can see
> android is one of main architecture for OM.
>
> What do you think?
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Am I right thinking no activity on the topic means, there are no
> areas of
> improvement in OpenMeetings?
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
> <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > GSOC 2016 is coming :)
> > In case we would like to benefit from it we need to record GSOC
> ideas for
> > our project
> >
> > I would like to propose to discuss current list [1] and any
> additional
> > ideas in this thread
> > Looking forward for you comments :)
> >
> > [1]
> >
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-554?filter=12334770&jql=project%20%3D%20OPENMEETINGS%20AND%20labels%20%3D%20gsoc2016
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry Bezheckov.
>
>
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
seba.wagner@gmail.com