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Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
http://pylab.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-reasons-why-couchdb-is-better-than.html
Guys I wrote up a small list of reasons why i think couchdb is way bettter
than mysql. Do let me know what you think
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by paul jobs <we...@gmail.com>.
well said alan, it is way each to explian and understand document and
associated views
On 1/4/09, Alan Bell <al...@theopenlearningcentre.com> wrote:
>
> same problem for years explaining what Lotus Notes is. The odd thing is
> that to a lay person it is way easier to understand the concept of a
> document and a bunch of views than it is to understand tables, relations,
> left inner joins, compound keys, fourth normal form etc.
>
> Alan.
>
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> that's probably right. We have a similar problem with MongoDB - once you
>> have to start explaining the fundamental differences, the battle is lost.
>> They are just too different from RDBMS.
>>
>> geir
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't
>>>> really
>>>> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best for
>>>> most
>>>> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a good
>>>> db :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul.
>>>
>>> However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and
>>> monitoring the
>>> community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of
>>> comparison
>>> to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Alan Bell <al...@theopenlearningcentre.com>.
same problem for years explaining what Lotus Notes is. The odd thing is
that to a lay person it is way easier to understand the concept of a
document and a bunch of views than it is to understand tables,
relations, left inner joins, compound keys, fourth normal form etc.
Alan.
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> that's probably right. We have a similar problem with MongoDB - once
> you have to start explaining the fundamental differences, the battle
> is lost. They are just too different from RDBMS.
>
> geir
>
> On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
>>> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't
>>> really
>>> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best
>>> for most
>>> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a
>>> good db :)
>>
>> Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul.
>>
>> However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and
>> monitoring the
>> community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of
>> comparison
>> to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully.
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.
that's probably right. We have a similar problem with MongoDB - once
you have to start explaining the fundamental differences, the battle
is lost. They are just too different from RDBMS.
geir
On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
>> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't
>> really
>> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the
>> best for most
>> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a
>> good db :)
>
> Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul.
>
> However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and
> monitoring the
> community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of
> comparison
> to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully.
>
> --
> Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Sean Allen <se...@monkeysnatchbanana.com>.
On Jan 3, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
>> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't
>> really
>> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the
>> best for most
>> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a
>> good db :)
>
> Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul.
>
> However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and
> monitoring the
> community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of
> comparison
> to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully.
any why X is better than Y is almost always counter productive unless
its very well reasoned
and in depth- if you don't go for a persuasive argument, all you have
is a flame war waiting to happen.
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:25:14PM -0500, Patrick Aljord wrote:
> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't really
> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best for most
> jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a good db :)
Firstly, thanks for the write up Paul.
However, after looking at the feedback from the CouchDB book and monitoring the
community response to CouchDB I am starting to feel that any kind of comparison
to RDBMS is a harmful one, unless done very, very carefully.
--
Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by paul jobs <we...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Patrick and Nuno
This would fit into a 10000 feet overview of what they are heading into if
they take up couchdb for their next project and why they should
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Aljord <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Relational vs Document.
> >
> > Isn't that like comparing a pudding to ice-cream? I mean they are both
> > deserts. :P
> >
> >
> There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't really
> care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best for
> most jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a
> good
> db :)
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Patrick Aljord <pa...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Relational vs Document.
>
> Isn't that like comparing a pudding to ice-cream? I mean they are both
> deserts. :P
>
>
There is nothing wrong in comparing two databases, many users don't really
care about the internals and just want to know which one is the best for
most jobs. I personally think couchdb is good for most apps that need a good
db :)
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com>.
Paul I also prefer ice-cream and couchdb would be my favorite flavor :)
Nice article anyway :)
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, paul jobs <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> nuno you are right
> but no one has gotten doc as right as couchdb
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Relational vs Document.
> >
> > Isn't that like comparing a pudding to ice-cream? I mean they are both
> > deserts. :P
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM, paul jobs <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://pylab.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-reasons-why-couchdb-is-better-than.html
> > >
> > > Guys I wrote up a small list of reasons why i think couchdb is way
> > bettter
> > > than mysql. Do let me know what you think
> > >
> >
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by paul jobs <we...@gmail.com>.
nuno you are right
but no one has gotten doc as right as couchdb
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Relational vs Document.
>
> Isn't that like comparing a pudding to ice-cream? I mean they are both
> deserts. :P
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM, paul jobs <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> http://pylab.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-reasons-why-couchdb-is-better-than.html
> >
> > Guys I wrote up a small list of reasons why i think couchdb is way
> bettter
> > than mysql. Do let me know what you think
> >
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Nuno Job <nu...@gmail.com>.
Relational vs Document.
Isn't that like comparing a pudding to ice-cream? I mean they are both
deserts. :P
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM, paul jobs <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://pylab.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-reasons-why-couchdb-is-better-than.html
>
> Guys I wrote up a small list of reasons why i think couchdb is way bettter
> than mysql. Do let me know what you think
>
Re: Ten(14) Reasons why Couchdb is better than Mysql
Posted by Francesco Lazzarino <fl...@gmail.com>.
I think the pitfall is in the word database. it used to mean "where
the data lives", and it became over the years to mean "RDB that just
so happens to be where the data lives".
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM, paul jobs <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://pylab.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-reasons-why-couchdb-is-better-than.html
>
> Guys I wrote up a small list of reasons why i think couchdb is way bettter
> than mysql. Do let me know what you think
>
--
franco