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4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported
>>>> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues.
>>>
>>> Such as, for example?
>>
>> for starters:
>> o zip 3.0.
>> o GIO
>>
>>
> If you *really* need GIO, try adding --disable-gio --enable-gnome-vfs to
> ./configure.
>
The issue is that CentOS5 simply does not and can not provide GIO.
So it is, IMO at least, unsuitable for our reference community
build platform.
This was brought up on the "AOO 4.2.0-dev builds" thread.
Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Who has write access to that?
The main OpenOffice site is in our source repository, so all committers
have access to it. But for some reason we don't post news there, even
though we have an (outdated) news archive there.
The OpenOffice blog https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ is powered by Roller
and managed by Infra; I don't really recommend the tool for anything
more than basic text-only posts, but I have write access, like many
other PMC members (Marcus, probably Roberto, and surely many others).
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Who has write access to that?
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Why don't we post that on our www.openoffice.org blog?
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>> http://jimjag.com/imo/index.php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-
>> Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html <http://jimjag.com/imo/index.
>> php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html>
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds like a good topic for a blog post... Our current
>>> discussions regarding 4.2.0 and Linux.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
Why don't we post that on our www.openoffice.org blog?
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> http://jimjag.com/imo/index.php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-
> Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html <http://jimjag.com/imo/index.
> php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a good topic for a blog post... Our current
> > discussions regarding 4.2.0 and Linux.
> >
>
>
Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
http://jimjag.com/imo/index.php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html <http://jimjag.com/imo/index.php?/archives/272-The-Path-to-Apache-OpenOffice-4.2.0.html>
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:35 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Sounds like a good topic for a blog post... Our current
> discussions regarding 4.2.0 and Linux.
>
Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Sounds like a good topic for a blog post... Our current
discussions regarding 4.2.0 and Linux.
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Peter kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Are there users who want CentOS5 builds?
>
> Am 4. Dezember 2017 13:23:39 MEZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>:
>> Thx. Yeah, I got that. I also understand that GIO is, by far, the
>> recommended option.
>>
>> So our options are:
>>
>> 1. We stick w/ CentOS5 as our ref build system for 4.2.0 but force
>> Gnome VFS.
>>
>> 2. We move to CentOS6, accept the default of GIO but understand that
>> this moves CentOS5 as a non-supported OS for our community builds.
>>
>> 3. Just as we offer Linux 32 and 64bit builds, starting w/ 4.2.0
>> we offer CentOS5 community builds (w/ Gnome VFS) IN ADDITION
>> TO CentOS6 builds (w/ GIO). (i.e.: 32bit-Gnome VFS, 64bit-Gnome VFS,
>> 32bit-GIO, 64bit-GIO).
>>
>> It doesn't matter to me... I'm setup to be able to
>> do any and all options re: builds. Whatever makes most
>> sense for our end-users and community is what we should
>> do.
>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry what I meant to say was, those flags to ./configure still let
>> you
>>> build with Gnome VFS instead of GIO.
>>>
>>> I didn't take GIO out of the build, I just switched the default VFS
>>> implementation from Gnome VFS to GIO.
>>>
>>> Damjan
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a
>> supported
>>>>>>>> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such as, for example?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for starters:
>>>>>> o zip 3.0.
>>>>>> o GIO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you *really* need GIO, try adding --disable-gio
>> --enable-gnome-vfs to
>>>>> ./configure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The issue is that CentOS5 simply does not and can not provide GIO.
>>>> So it is, IMO at least, unsuitable for our reference community
>>>> build platform.
>>>>
>>>> This was brought up on the "AOO 4.2.0-dev builds" thread.
>>
>>
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Peter kovacs <pe...@apache.org>.
Are there users who want CentOS5 builds?
Am 4. Dezember 2017 13:23:39 MEZ schrieb Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>:
>Thx. Yeah, I got that. I also understand that GIO is, by far, the
>recommended option.
>
>So our options are:
>
> 1. We stick w/ CentOS5 as our ref build system for 4.2.0 but force
> Gnome VFS.
>
> 2. We move to CentOS6, accept the default of GIO but understand that
> this moves CentOS5 as a non-supported OS for our community builds.
>
> 3. Just as we offer Linux 32 and 64bit builds, starting w/ 4.2.0
> we offer CentOS5 community builds (w/ Gnome VFS) IN ADDITION
> TO CentOS6 builds (w/ GIO). (i.e.: 32bit-Gnome VFS, 64bit-Gnome VFS,
> 32bit-GIO, 64bit-GIO).
>
>It doesn't matter to me... I'm setup to be able to
>do any and all options re: builds. Whatever makes most
>sense for our end-users and community is what we should
>do.
>
>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>>
>> Sorry what I meant to say was, those flags to ./configure still let
>you
>> build with Gnome VFS instead of GIO.
>>
>> I didn't take GIO out of the build, I just switched the default VFS
>> implementation from Gnome VFS to GIO.
>>
>> Damjan
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>>> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a
>supported
>>>>>>> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such as, for example?
>>>>>
>>>>> for starters:
>>>>> o zip 3.0.
>>>>> o GIO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If you *really* need GIO, try adding --disable-gio
>--enable-gnome-vfs to
>>>> ./configure.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The issue is that CentOS5 simply does not and can not provide GIO.
>>> So it is, IMO at least, unsuitable for our reference community
>>> build platform.
>>>
>>> This was brought up on the "AOO 4.2.0-dev builds" thread.
>
>
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> So our options are:
> 1. We stick w/ CentOS5 as our ref build system for 4.2.0 but force
> Gnome VFS.
> 2. We move to CentOS6, accept the default of GIO but understand that
> this moves CentOS5 as a non-supported OS for our community builds.
> 3. Just as we offer Linux 32 and 64bit builds, starting w/ 4.2.0
> we offer CentOS5 community builds (w/ Gnome VFS) IN ADDITION
> TO CentOS6 builds (w/ GIO). (i.e.: 32bit-Gnome VFS, 64bit-Gnome VFS,
> 32bit-GIO, 64bit-GIO).
If the post on your web space spurs a debate, we can indeed let users
choose; but if that doesn't come I guess we are simply left with the
responsibility of choosing for them, and option 3 looks the best one.
In that sense, CentOS 5 is not only old but officially dead and
unsupported. This should be taken into consideration, not only the
number of users. That said, virtually any Linux distribution released in
2011 or later (a huge period by Linux distributions standards) will be
supported if we switch to CentOS 6 for "official" builds. Bugzilla link:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127513
It seems reasonable to believe that we can offer CentOS6 builds from the
download page and CentOS5 builds (in a "more unofficial" fashion, as we
already did once in the past; and linked from the Release Notes but not
from the download page) from a committer's home directory.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Thx. Yeah, I got that. I also understand that GIO is, by far, the
recommended option.
So our options are:
1. We stick w/ CentOS5 as our ref build system for 4.2.0 but force
Gnome VFS.
2. We move to CentOS6, accept the default of GIO but understand that
this moves CentOS5 as a non-supported OS for our community builds.
3. Just as we offer Linux 32 and 64bit builds, starting w/ 4.2.0
we offer CentOS5 community builds (w/ Gnome VFS) IN ADDITION
TO CentOS6 builds (w/ GIO). (i.e.: 32bit-Gnome VFS, 64bit-Gnome VFS,
32bit-GIO, 64bit-GIO).
It doesn't matter to me... I'm setup to be able to
do any and all options re: builds. Whatever makes most
sense for our end-users and community is what we should
do.
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Sorry what I meant to say was, those flags to ./configure still let you
> build with Gnome VFS instead of GIO.
>
> I didn't take GIO out of the build, I just switched the default VFS
> implementation from Gnome VFS to GIO.
>
> Damjan
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>>> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported
>>>>>> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such as, for example?
>>>>
>>>> for starters:
>>>> o zip 3.0.
>>>> o GIO
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you *really* need GIO, try adding --disable-gio --enable-gnome-vfs to
>>> ./configure.
>>>
>>
>> The issue is that CentOS5 simply does not and can not provide GIO.
>> So it is, IMO at least, unsuitable for our reference community
>> build platform.
>>
>> This was brought up on the "AOO 4.2.0-dev builds" thread.
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Re: 4.2.0: Baseline CentOS6 as reference build platform
Posted by Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org>.
Sorry what I meant to say was, those flags to ./configure still let you
build with Gnome VFS instead of GIO.
I didn't take GIO out of the build, I just switched the default VFS
implementation from Gnome VFS to GIO.
Damjan
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:16 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>>> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported
> >>>> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues.
> >>>
> >>> Such as, for example?
> >>
> >> for starters:
> >> o zip 3.0.
> >> o GIO
> >>
> >>
> > If you *really* need GIO, try adding --disable-gio --enable-gnome-vfs to
> > ./configure.
> >
>
> The issue is that CentOS5 simply does not and can not provide GIO.
> So it is, IMO at least, unsuitable for our reference community
> build platform.
>
> This was brought up on the "AOO 4.2.0-dev builds" thread.