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[jira] [Created] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Brion Vibber created CB-1495:
--------------------------------

             Summary: iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
                 Key: CB-1495
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
             Project: Apache Cordova
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: iOS
    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
            Reporter: Brion Vibber
            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
            Priority: Minor


The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!

$ ls -lh
total 8680
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
-rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png

They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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Re: [jira] [Commented] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, these files are intended to be overwritten by the app developer
anyway, no reason in my mind for them to be huge fully realized
graphic assets.
I think we should even go so far as to add 'placeholder' text, so that
people know that they should replace them.



On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Patrick Mueller <pm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just tried recreating Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.crushed from the original
> icon, with a solid gray background - png is 82KB.
>
> KILL THE GRADIENT.
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Patrick Mueller (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>>
>>     [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13476424#comment-13476424]
>>
>> Patrick Mueller commented on CB-1495:
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>> I agree with Jesse's comments on the m/l.  Gradients.  KILL.
>>
>> Or ... I just tried using Acorn to save as a JPG (do they support JPEG?).
>>  At 80% quality, compressed to 134KB.  Looked pretty good to me!
>>
>> If they don't support JPEG, I wonder if switching from a 24-bit to 8-bit
>> PNG would help.  Looks like I can get that down to about 240KB, but ...
>> artifact-y.
>>
>> I'd vote to just kill the gradients.  Next point release (not 2.2).
>>
>> > iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >                 Key: CB-1495
>> >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>> >             Project: Apache Cordova
>> >          Issue Type: Bug
>> >          Components: iOS
>> >    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>> >         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>> >            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>> >            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>> >            Priority: Minor
>> >              Labels: splashscreen
>> >             Fix For: 2.2.0
>> >
>> >         Attachments: crushed.zip
>> >
>> >
>> > The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina
>> iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
>> > $ ls -lh
>> > total 8680
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x
>> ~ipad.png
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x
>> ~ipad.png
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
>> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
>> > They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients
>> in the background may be at issue.
>>
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Re: [jira] [Commented] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by Patrick Mueller <pm...@gmail.com>.
Just tried recreating Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.crushed from the original
icon, with a solid gray background - png is 82KB.

KILL THE GRADIENT.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Patrick Mueller (JIRA) <ji...@apache.org>wrote:

>
>     [
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13476424#comment-13476424]
>
> Patrick Mueller commented on CB-1495:
> -------------------------------------
>
> I agree with Jesse's comments on the m/l.  Gradients.  KILL.
>
> Or ... I just tried using Acorn to save as a JPG (do they support JPEG?).
>  At 80% quality, compressed to 134KB.  Looked pretty good to me!
>
> If they don't support JPEG, I wonder if switching from a 24-bit to 8-bit
> PNG would help.  Looks like I can get that down to about 240KB, but ...
> artifact-y.
>
> I'd vote to just kill the gradients.  Next point release (not 2.2).
>
> > iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                 Key: CB-1495
> >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
> >             Project: Apache Cordova
> >          Issue Type: Bug
> >          Components: iOS
> >    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
> >         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
> >            Reporter: Brion Vibber
> >            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
> >            Priority: Minor
> >              Labels: splashscreen
> >             Fix For: 2.2.0
> >
> >         Attachments: crushed.zip
> >
> >
> > The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina
> iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> > $ ls -lh
> > total 8680
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x
> ~ipad.png
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x
> ~ipad.png
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> > -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> > They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients
> in the background may be at issue.
>
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Re: [jira] [Updated] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Gradients are always the issue!

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)
<ji...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>      [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
>
> Shazron Abdullah updated CB-1495:
> ---------------------------------
>
>     Attachment: crushed.zip
>
> pngcrushed files attached.
>
>> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>                 Key: CB-1495
>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>>             Project: Apache Cordova
>>          Issue Type: Bug
>>          Components: iOS
>>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>>            Priority: Minor
>>              Labels: splashscreen
>>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>>
>>         Attachments: crushed.zip
>>
>>
>> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
>> $ ls -lh
>> total 8680
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
>> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
>> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.
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[jira] [Updated] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Shazron Abdullah updated CB-1495:
---------------------------------

    Attachment: crushed.zip

pngcrushed files attached.
                
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>
>         Attachments: crushed.zip
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Commented] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Patrick Mueller (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13476424#comment-13476424 ] 

Patrick Mueller commented on CB-1495:
-------------------------------------

I agree with Jesse's comments on the m/l.  Gradients.  KILL.

Or ... I just tried using Acorn to save as a JPG (do they support JPEG?).  At 80% quality, compressed to 134KB.  Looked pretty good to me!  

If they don't support JPEG, I wonder if switching from a 24-bit to 8-bit PNG would help.  Looks like I can get that down to about 240KB, but ... artifact-y.

I'd vote to just kill the gradients.  Next point release (not 2.2).
                
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>
>         Attachments: crushed.zip
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Updated] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Shazron Abdullah updated CB-1495:
---------------------------------

    Fix Version/s:     (was: 2.2.0)
                   2.3.0

Punting to 2.3.0
                
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.3.0
>
>         Attachments: crushed.zip
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Updated] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Shazron Abdullah updated CB-1495:
---------------------------------

    Fix Version/s:     (was: 2.3.0)
                   2.4.0
    
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.4.0
>
>         Attachments: crushed.zip
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Commented] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13457438#comment-13457438 ] 

Shazron Abdullah commented on CB-1495:
--------------------------------------

I'm thinking maybe we should remove them entirely - they are merely there for developers to replace with their own ones after creating a new project. These images are taken from here: http://incubator.apache.org/cordova/artwork.html
                
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Commented] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13459254#comment-13459254 ] 

Shazron Abdullah commented on CB-1495:
--------------------------------------

I tried using pngcrush
{code}
pngcrush -reduce -brute in.png out.png
{code}

Splash folder -- before: 4.8 MB, after: 3.7 MB (23% savings). Not good enough?

                
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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[jira] [Updated] (CB-1495) iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes

Posted by "Shazron Abdullah (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Shazron Abdullah updated CB-1495:
---------------------------------

    Fix Version/s: 2.2.0
    
> iOS default splash screen images take up several megabytes
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CB-1495
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1495
>             Project: Apache Cordova
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: iOS
>    Affects Versions: 2.0.0
>         Environment: iOS, XCode 4.5, Cordova 2.0.0
>            Reporter: Brion Vibber
>            Assignee: Shazron Abdullah
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: splashscreen
>             Fix For: 2.2.0
>
>
> The default splash screen images for iOS are quite large; the Retina iPad images are 1.5 megabytes for each orientation!
> $ ls -lh
> total 8680
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   413K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Landscape~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   1.5M Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait@2x~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   412K Sep 17 15:18 Default-Portrait~ipad.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff   342K Sep 17 15:18 Default@2x~iphone.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 brion  staff    92K Sep 17 15:18 Default~iphone.png
> They should probably be recompressed to be a bit smaller; the gradients in the background may be at issue.

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