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Posted to dev@olingo.apache.org by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com> on 2013/08/15 07:54:02 UTC
use of olingo.org
Hi Olingo devs,
It's good to see your setup here is going well. Each month the IPMC
appoints random projects to "shepherds". This month I was assigned the
Olingo project. In my review I provided the following feedback which I copy
here for the communities feedback. Your mentors will help figure out the
right course of action.
"The projects documentation is on http://olingo.org. It is, as far as I am
aware, a requirement to use the apache.org domain for all official content.
This is not a legacy domain that needs to be moved during incubation. It is
a domain that has been created during incubation. It is also unclear who
owns that domain and how content for it is managed. All properties using
ASF trademarks must be owned and managed by the PMC. I see no engagement
from mentors on this topic so assume they missed this development.
Other than this issue the project is still in the initial setup phase."
Ross
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Senior Technology Evangelist
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
Re: use of olingo.org
Posted by "Bolz, Michael" <mi...@sap.com>.
Hi,
I have the same opinion.
It is better to have this domain redirecting to the
'olingo.incubator.apache.org' (instead of redirection to something like
'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olingo').
And also I think the change to use a 'forward' can surely be done by the
domain owner.
Then everybody is happy and we can all together develop in the Olingo
project ;o)
Kind regards,
Michael
On 16.08.13 00:20, "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hi Ross,
>
>Since the podling is starting out I took the creation of the domain as a
>good thing - it protects the trademark. How it works is something we can
>work out in due course - along with ownership, etc.
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
Re: use of olingo.org
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Ross,
Since the podling is starting out I took the creation of the domain as a good thing - it protects the trademark. How it works is something we can work out in due course - along with ownership, etc.
Regards,
Dave
On Aug 15, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Just to close this off the shepherd report now reads:
>
> "The project is still in the initial setup phase so not much to report.
> Mentors
> are engaged where they need to be."
>
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Senior Technology Evangelist
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 08:27, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... I'd suggest a forward would be better (i.e. the address bar shows
>> the apache.org address). The reason I suggest this is twofold:
>>
>> 1) the ASF take the position that if it is not on an apache.org address
>> then users cannot trust it
>> 2) the CMS is broken by this redirection (although not if you go to the *
>> apache.org address).
>>
>> However, this is only a suggestion and can be freely ignored. Thanks for
>> putting me straight I'll update the shepherds notes on the board report.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 August 2013 00:11, Florian Müller <fm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ross,
>>>
>>> All official Olingo content is on an apache.org domain and is maintained
>>> there. olingo.org merely redirects to olingo.incubator.apache.org.
>>> As long as olingo.org is not mentioned in any official documentation, I
>>> don't think there is any further action necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Florian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Olingo devs,
>>>>
>>>> It's good to see your setup here is going well. Each month the IPMC
>>>> appoints random projects to "shepherds". This month I was assigned the
>>>> Olingo project. In my review I provided the following feedback which I
>>>> copy
>>>> here for the communities feedback. Your mentors will help figure out the
>>>> right course of action.
>>>>
>>>> "The projects documentation is on http://olingo.org. It is, as far as I
>>>> am
>>>> aware, a requirement to use the apache.org domain for all official
>>>> content.
>>>> This is not a legacy domain that needs to be moved during incubation. It
>>>> is
>>>> a domain that has been created during incubation. It is also unclear who
>>>> owns that domain and how content for it is managed. All properties using
>>>> ASF trademarks must be owned and managed by the PMC. I see no engagement
>>>> from mentors on this topic so assume they missed this development.
>>>>
>>>> Other than this issue the project is still in the initial setup phase."
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>>>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: use of olingo.org
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
Just to close this off the shepherd report now reads:
"The project is still in the initial setup phase so not much to report.
Mentors
are engaged where they need to be."
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Senior Technology Evangelist
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
On 15 August 2013 08:27, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> Hmmm... I'd suggest a forward would be better (i.e. the address bar shows
> the apache.org address). The reason I suggest this is twofold:
>
> 1) the ASF take the position that if it is not on an apache.org address
> then users cannot trust it
> 2) the CMS is broken by this redirection (although not if you go to the *
> apache.org address).
>
> However, this is only a suggestion and can be freely ignored. Thanks for
> putting me straight I'll update the shepherds notes on the board report.
>
> Ross
>
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Senior Technology Evangelist
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 00:11, Florian Müller <fm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ross,
>>
>> All official Olingo content is on an apache.org domain and is maintained
>> there. olingo.org merely redirects to olingo.incubator.apache.org.
>> As long as olingo.org is not mentioned in any official documentation, I
>> don't think there is any further action necessary.
>>
>>
>> - Florian
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Olingo devs,
>>>
>>> It's good to see your setup here is going well. Each month the IPMC
>>> appoints random projects to "shepherds". This month I was assigned the
>>> Olingo project. In my review I provided the following feedback which I
>>> copy
>>> here for the communities feedback. Your mentors will help figure out the
>>> right course of action.
>>>
>>> "The projects documentation is on http://olingo.org. It is, as far as I
>>> am
>>> aware, a requirement to use the apache.org domain for all official
>>> content.
>>> This is not a legacy domain that needs to be moved during incubation. It
>>> is
>>> a domain that has been created during incubation. It is also unclear who
>>> owns that domain and how content for it is managed. All properties using
>>> ASF trademarks must be owned and managed by the PMC. I see no engagement
>>> from mentors on this topic so assume they missed this development.
>>>
>>> Other than this issue the project is still in the initial setup phase."
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>>
>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: use of olingo.org
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
Hmmm... I'd suggest a forward would be better (i.e. the address bar shows
the apache.org address). The reason I suggest this is twofold:
1) the ASF take the position that if it is not on an apache.org address
then users cannot trust it
2) the CMS is broken by this redirection (although not if you go to the *
apache.org address).
However, this is only a suggestion and can be freely ignored. Thanks for
putting me straight I'll update the shepherds notes on the board report.
Ross
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Senior Technology Evangelist
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
On 15 August 2013 00:11, Florian Müller <fm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Ross,
>
> All official Olingo content is on an apache.org domain and is maintained
> there. olingo.org merely redirects to olingo.incubator.apache.org.
> As long as olingo.org is not mentioned in any official documentation, I
> don't think there is any further action necessary.
>
>
> - Florian
>
>
>
> Hi Olingo devs,
>>
>> It's good to see your setup here is going well. Each month the IPMC
>> appoints random projects to "shepherds". This month I was assigned the
>> Olingo project. In my review I provided the following feedback which I
>> copy
>> here for the communities feedback. Your mentors will help figure out the
>> right course of action.
>>
>> "The projects documentation is on http://olingo.org. It is, as far as I
>> am
>> aware, a requirement to use the apache.org domain for all official
>> content.
>> This is not a legacy domain that needs to be moved during incubation. It
>> is
>> a domain that has been created during incubation. It is also unclear who
>> owns that domain and how content for it is managed. All properties using
>> ASF trademarks must be owned and managed by the PMC. I see no engagement
>> from mentors on this topic so assume they missed this development.
>>
>> Other than this issue the project is still in the initial setup phase."
>>
>> Ross
>>
>>
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>
>
>
Re: use of olingo.org
Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@apache.org>.
Hi Ross,
All official Olingo content is on an apache.org domain and is
maintained there. olingo.org merely redirects to
olingo.incubator.apache.org.
As long as olingo.org is not mentioned in any official documentation, I
don't think there is any further action necessary.
- Florian
> Hi Olingo devs,
>
> It's good to see your setup here is going well. Each month the IPMC
> appoints random projects to "shepherds". This month I was assigned
> the
> Olingo project. In my review I provided the following feedback which
> I copy
> here for the communities feedback. Your mentors will help figure out
> the
> right course of action.
>
> "The projects documentation is on http://olingo.org. It is, as far as
> I am
> aware, a requirement to use the apache.org domain for all official
> content.
> This is not a legacy domain that needs to be moved during incubation.
> It is
> a domain that has been created during incubation. It is also unclear
> who
> owns that domain and how content for it is managed. All properties
> using
> ASF trademarks must be owned and managed by the PMC. I see no
> engagement
> from mentors on this topic so assume they missed this development.
>
> Other than this issue the project is still in the initial setup
> phase."
>
> Ross
>
>
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Senior Technology Evangelist
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation