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Posted to dev@couchdb.apache.org by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> on 2013/10/10 15:13:34 UTC
Re: CouchDB "Joins" article Licence acknowledge
Christopher,
Slight snag. Per the Apache legal guidelines, we'll move the copyright
notice out of the file and put it in NOTICE (actually, probably in the next
release, as we don't want to hold up this one any more than we have to, and
it's not a blocker for us).
But we can't actually ship this without a license. Would you be willing to
license it to us? I think that a statement of intent on the mailing list is
probably fine. (As if submitting a patch.) The Apache license is probably
our preferred one.
Thanks,
On 22 August 2013 14:06, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh..really. I told myself to not mix content from different sources
> and now I'm caught myself on this(: Thanks, fixed!
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Alexander,
> >
> > No problem. But the metadata you added now makes it look like I wrote
> the whole page, whereas it's just the “Using View Collation” part that you
> copied from my blog post :P
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> > On 22.08.2013, at 12:00, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Christopher!
> >>
> >> Yea, sorry about that I hadn't done this at first place. Is it ok if I
> >> add this info as ReST metadata in the way like this:
> >> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/couchapp/views/joins.html
> >> Raw:
> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/.sources/couchapp/views/joins.txt
> >> --
> >> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hey Alexander,
> >>>
> >>> I'd be glad to contribute this content to the documentation.
> >>>
> >>> Could you please just make sure to include a link to the original
> post, the date, and my name. It'd be good to make it clear that the post is
> quoted verbatim (something like “The following was originally published by
> Christopher Lenz in late 2007 at <URL>”). I think it's a bit confusing how
> it's included without comment in the preview, since some of it is a bit
> outdated (as Jan already pointed out), and clearly written as a blog post.
> >>>
> >>> Great work on the docs BTW!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> On 21.08.2013, at 19:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Christopher!
> >>>>
> >>>> Your article about CouchDB's Joins[1] is very popular, so I'd decided
> >>>> to include it to CouchDB official docs. However, we need to add some
> >>>> notes about his author and content licence.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you suggest how made this better?
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]: http://www.cmlenz.net/archives/2007/10/couchdb-joins
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S. Hope that you don't mind about such actions from my side (:
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: CouchDB "Joins" article Licence acknowledge
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Thanks Chris.
Now that you've licensed the work under the Apache License 2.0, we are free
to make a derivative version. So I think we should massage the text a bit
(for the next release) so this intro doesn't seem so jarring.
Thanks!
On 10 October 2013 15:42, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Noah,
>
> sure you can use the text from "CouchDB Joins" in the docs. Or, ehem,
> <formal voice>, I hereby grant the Apache CouchDB project a license to use
> this content under the terms of the ASL. :)
>
> My earlier point was more about the reader of the CouchDB docs being
> confused by the section starting with the words "Just today, there was a
> discussion on IRC how you’d go about [...]" and all that. The whole text
> needs to be put into context/perspective for the reader, namely that it's
> from a blog post in 2007. This isn't really about making me happy with the
> attribution :)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> On 10.10.2013, at 15:13, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Christopher,
> >
> > Slight snag. Per the Apache legal guidelines, we'll move the copyright
> > notice out of the file and put it in NOTICE (actually, probably in the
> next
> > release, as we don't want to hold up this one any more than we have to,
> and
> > it's not a blocker for us).
> >
> > But we can't actually ship this without a license. Would you be willing
> to
> > license it to us? I think that a statement of intent on the mailing list
> is
> > probably fine. (As if submitting a patch.) The Apache license is probably
> > our preferred one.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > On 22 August 2013 14:06, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oh..really. I told myself to not mix content from different sources
> >> and now I'm caught myself on this(: Thanks, fixed!
> >> --
> >> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi Alexander,
> >>>
> >>> No problem. But the metadata you added now makes it look like I wrote
> >> the whole page, whereas it's just the “Using View Collation” part that
> you
> >> copied from my blog post :P
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> On 22.08.2013, at 12:00, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Christopher!
> >>>>
> >>>> Yea, sorry about that I hadn't done this at first place. Is it ok if I
> >>>> add this info as ReST metadata in the way like this:
> >>>> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/couchapp/views/joins.html
> >>>> Raw:
> >> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/.sources/couchapp/views/joins.txt
> >>>> --
> >>>> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> Hey Alexander,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd be glad to contribute this content to the documentation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could you please just make sure to include a link to the original
> >> post, the date, and my name. It'd be good to make it clear that the
> post is
> >> quoted verbatim (something like “The following was originally published
> by
> >> Christopher Lenz in late 2007 at <URL>”). I think it's a bit confusing
> how
> >> it's included without comment in the preview, since some of it is a bit
> >> outdated (as Jan already pointed out), and clearly written as a blog
> post.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great work on the docs BTW!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 21.08.2013, at 19:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Christopher!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Your article about CouchDB's Joins[1] is very popular, so I'd
> decided
> >>>>>> to include it to CouchDB official docs. However, we need to add some
> >>>>>> notes about his author and content licence.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could you suggest how made this better?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]: http://www.cmlenz.net/archives/2007/10/couchdb-joins
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> P.S. Hope that you don't mind about such actions from my side (:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noah Slater
> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: CouchDB "Joins" article Licence acknowledge
Posted by Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>.
Hey Noah,
sure you can use the text from "CouchDB Joins" in the docs. Or, ehem, <formal voice>, I hereby grant the Apache CouchDB project a license to use this content under the terms of the ASL. :)
My earlier point was more about the reader of the CouchDB docs being confused by the section starting with the words "Just today, there was a discussion on IRC how you’d go about [...]" and all that. The whole text needs to be put into context/perspective for the reader, namely that it's from a blog post in 2007. This isn't really about making me happy with the attribution :)
Thanks,
Chris
On 10.10.2013, at 15:13, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Christopher,
>
> Slight snag. Per the Apache legal guidelines, we'll move the copyright
> notice out of the file and put it in NOTICE (actually, probably in the next
> release, as we don't want to hold up this one any more than we have to, and
> it's not a blocker for us).
>
> But we can't actually ship this without a license. Would you be willing to
> license it to us? I think that a statement of intent on the mailing list is
> probably fine. (As if submitting a patch.) The Apache license is probably
> our preferred one.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On 22 August 2013 14:06, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh..really. I told myself to not mix content from different sources
>> and now I'm caught myself on this(: Thanks, fixed!
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Alexander,
>>>
>>> No problem. But the metadata you added now makes it look like I wrote
>> the whole page, whereas it's just the “Using View Collation” part that you
>> copied from my blog post :P
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On 22.08.2013, at 12:00, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Christopher!
>>>>
>>>> Yea, sorry about that I hadn't done this at first place. Is it ok if I
>>>> add this info as ReST metadata in the way like this:
>>>> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/couchapp/views/joins.html
>>>> Raw:
>> http://kxepal.iriscouch.com/docs/1.3/.sources/couchapp/views/joins.txt
>>>> --
>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Christopher Lenz <cm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Alexander,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be glad to contribute this content to the documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please just make sure to include a link to the original
>> post, the date, and my name. It'd be good to make it clear that the post is
>> quoted verbatim (something like “The following was originally published by
>> Christopher Lenz in late 2007 at <URL>”). I think it's a bit confusing how
>> it's included without comment in the preview, since some of it is a bit
>> outdated (as Jan already pointed out), and clearly written as a blog post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great work on the docs BTW!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21.08.2013, at 19:08, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Christopher!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your article about CouchDB's Joins[1] is very popular, so I'd decided
>>>>>> to include it to CouchDB official docs. However, we need to add some
>>>>>> notes about his author and content licence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you suggest how made this better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]: http://www.cmlenz.net/archives/2007/10/couchdb-joins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Hope that you don't mind about such actions from my side (:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater