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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> on 2006/09/28 18:26:00 UTC
ProductionRun generation
Hi all,
How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan to
enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders with
the products I want to produce?
Regards
Marcelo
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Ricardo Chavez <ri...@gmail.com>.
Marcelo,
sorry for the delay
If you only see those requirement types, then you must have a recent (i.e.
an SVN or weekly build) version, in which, as Jacopo mentioned, the
requirement type I told you to look for has been removed and replaced by the
internal requirement; that would be the requirement type you must look for.
(Maybe there's a reason I'm not aware of: corrections are welcome)
Hope this is helpful
Regards,
-- Ricardo Chavez
On 9/29/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ricardo,
> in that screen the only "requirement type id" options I see are:
>
> - customer requirement
> - internal requirement
> - product requirement
> - work requirement
>
> why?
>
> thanks for your help.
> Marcelo
>
>
>
> >From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:53:19 -0500
> >
> >Marcelo,
> >It's weird that there isn't an 'Approve Requirements' link on the
> >Manufacturing Manager screen. The generated requremets can be seen anyway
> >in
> >the Order Manager, in the Requirements screen. You have to select
> >'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process' from the
> OrderRequirementTypeId
> >field for the generated requirements to show up once you click 'Lookup'
> >(leaving all the fields blank won't show anything). If all went well, the
> >requirements generated by the MRP should show up here.
> >Hope this solves your problem
> >Regards,
> >
> >-- Ricardo Chavez
> >
> >On 9/29/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Ricardo,
> >>I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products
> on
> >>a
> >>facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve Requirements
> on
> >>the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp service and I saw that
> >>there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be
> >>the
> >>problem?
> >>
> >>Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>Marcelo
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
> >> >Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >> >To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >> >Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
> >> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
> >> >
> >> >Hi Marcelo.
> >> >If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce
> to
> >>a
> >> >facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
> >>facility.
> >> >If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
> >> >minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
> >>those
> >> >products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
> >> >checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they
> all
> >>are
> >> >of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on
> >>'Submit
> >> >Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production
> runs,
> >> >which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
> >> >Hope this helps.
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >-- Ricardo Chavez
> >> >
> >> >On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi all,
> >> >>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
> >> >>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan
> >>to
> >> >>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
> >>with
> >> >>the products I want to produce?
> >> >>
> >> >>Regards
> >> >>Marcelo
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Ricardo,
in that screen the only "requirement type id" options I see are:
- customer requirement
- internal requirement
- product requirement
- work requirement
why?
thanks for your help.
Marcelo
>From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:53:19 -0500
>
>Marcelo,
>It's weird that there isn't an 'Approve Requirements' link on the
>Manufacturing Manager screen. The generated requremets can be seen anyway
>in
>the Order Manager, in the Requirements screen. You have to select
>'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process' from the OrderRequirementTypeId
>field for the generated requirements to show up once you click 'Lookup'
>(leaving all the fields blank won't show anything). If all went well, the
>requirements generated by the MRP should show up here.
>Hope this solves your problem
>Regards,
>
>-- Ricardo Chavez
>
>On 9/29/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ricardo,
>>I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products on
>>a
>>facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve Requirements on
>>the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp service and I saw that
>>there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be
>>the
>>problem?
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Regards
>>Marcelo
>>
>>
>> >From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>> >Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> >To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> >Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>> >
>> >Hi Marcelo.
>> >If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to
>>a
>> >facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
>>facility.
>> >If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>> >minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
>>those
>> >products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>> >checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all
>>are
>> >of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on
>>'Submit
>> >Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
>> >which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>> >Hope this helps.
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >-- Ricardo Chavez
>> >
>> >On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Hi all,
>> >>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>> >>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan
>>to
>> >>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
>>with
>> >>the products I want to produce?
>> >>
>> >>Regards
>> >>Marcelo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Ricardo Chavez <ri...@gmail.com>.
Marcelo,
It's weird that there isn't an 'Approve Requirements' link on the
Manufacturing Manager screen. The generated requremets can be seen anyway in
the Order Manager, in the Requirements screen. You have to select
'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process' from the OrderRequirementTypeId
field for the generated requirements to show up once you click 'Lookup'
(leaving all the fields blank won't show anything). If all went well, the
requirements generated by the MRP should show up here.
Hope this solves your problem
Regards,
-- Ricardo Chavez
On 9/29/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ricardo,
> I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products on
> a
> facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve Requirements on
> the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp service and I saw that
> there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be
> the
> problem?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Regards
> Marcelo
>
>
> >From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
> >Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
> >
> >Hi Marcelo.
> >If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to a
> >facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
> facility.
> >If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
> >minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
> those
> >products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
> >checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all
> are
> >of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on 'Submit
> >Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
> >which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
> >Hope this helps.
> >Regards,
> >
> >-- Ricardo Chavez
> >
> >On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
> >>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan to
> >>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
> with
> >>the products I want to produce?
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>Marcelo
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Scott,
I intend to manage inventory only, not sales in OFBIZ. What I want is to let
the user enter the amount of marketing package products he wants to produce,
obtain the amount of raw materials that He needs to purchase, and generate
the production runs of the products to be manufactured.
I need to keep inventory of: final products and raw materials. Marketing
Package inventory would be calculated from final products that compose the
marketing package. Final Products once produced are shipped to another
warehouse.
Regards,
Marcelo
>From: Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 14:17:29 +1200
>
>The easiest to create way to production runs manually is to use the JobShop
>-> Create Production Run link. If your not managing inventory or orders
>using ofbiz there won't be much you can do that will be easier than this.
>What are you trying to achieve?
>
>Regards
>Scott
>
>Marcelo Hamra wrote:
>>Scott,
>>So You say that the way to generate productionRuns if I not sell products
>>is making transfers from a facility to another for example? This would
>>change the stock and would make productionRuns be generated.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Marcelo
>>
>>>From: Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>>>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:41:44 +1200
>>>
>>>Hi Marcelo
>>>
>>>I had a look in the code and it seems that only products with orders
>>>against them are included in the mrp run. I think that needs to be fixed
>>>but I still don't see the point of the mrp run anyway, I think
>>>requirements should be processed automatically whenever something changes
>>>on an inventory item.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Scott
>>>
>>>Marcelo Hamra wrote:
>>>>Ricardo,
>>>>I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products
>>>>on a facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve
>>>>Requirements on the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp
>>>>service and I saw that there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned
>>>>entity. What could be the problem?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Marcelo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>>>>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Marcelo.
>>>>>If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to
>>>>>a
>>>>>facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
>>>>>facility.
>>>>>If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>>>>>minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
>>>>>those
>>>>>products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>>>>>checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all
>>>>>are
>>>>>of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on
>>>>>'Submit
>>>>>Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production
>>>>>runs,
>>>>>which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>>>>>Hope this helps.
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>-- Ricardo Chavez
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>>>>>>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>the products I want to produce?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Marcelo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>.
The easiest to create way to production runs manually is to use the
JobShop -> Create Production Run link. If your not managing inventory
or orders using ofbiz there won't be much you can do that will be easier
than this. What are you trying to achieve?
Regards
Scott
Marcelo Hamra wrote:
> Scott,
> So You say that the way to generate productionRuns if I not sell
> products is making transfers from a facility to another for example?
> This would change the stock and would make productionRuns be generated.
>
> Thanks
> Marcelo
>
>> From: Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:41:44 +1200
>>
>> Hi Marcelo
>>
>> I had a look in the code and it seems that only products with orders
>> against them are included in the mrp run. I think that needs to be
>> fixed but I still don't see the point of the mrp run anyway, I think
>> requirements should be processed automatically whenever something
>> changes on an inventory item.
>>
>> Regards
>> Scott
>>
>> Marcelo Hamra wrote:
>>> Ricardo,
>>> I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the
>>> products on a facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing >
>>> Approve Requirements on the screen. I've been taking a look at the
>>> runMrp service and I saw that there are events created on
>>> inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be the problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>> To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marcelo.
>>>> If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to
>>>> produce to a
>>>> facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
>>>> facility.
>>>> If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>>>> minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or
>>>> purchasing those
>>>> products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>>>> checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they
>>>> all are
>>>> of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on
>>>> 'Submit
>>>> Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production
>>>> runs,
>>>> which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ricardo Chavez
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>>>>> produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't
>>>>> plan to
>>>>> enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales
>>>>> orders with
>>>>> the products I want to produce?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Marcelo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Scott,
So You say that the way to generate productionRuns if I not sell products is
making transfers from a facility to another for example? This would change
the stock and would make productionRuns be generated.
Thanks
Marcelo
>From: Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:41:44 +1200
>
>Hi Marcelo
>
>I had a look in the code and it seems that only products with orders
>against them are included in the mrp run. I think that needs to be fixed
>but I still don't see the point of the mrp run anyway, I think requirements
>should be processed automatically whenever something changes on an
>inventory item.
>
>Regards
>Scott
>
>Marcelo Hamra wrote:
>>Ricardo,
>>I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products on
>>a facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve Requirements
>>on the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp service and I saw
>>that there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could
>>be the problem?
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Regards
>>Marcelo
>>
>>
>>>From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>>>
>>>Hi Marcelo.
>>>If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to a
>>>facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
>>>facility.
>>>If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>>>minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
>>>those
>>>products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>>>checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all
>>>are
>>>of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on 'Submit
>>>Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
>>>which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>-- Ricardo Chavez
>>>
>>>On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>>>>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan to
>>>>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
>>>>with
>>>>the products I want to produce?
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Marcelo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marcelo
I had a look in the code and it seems that only products with orders
against them are included in the mrp run. I think that needs to be
fixed but I still don't see the point of the mrp run anyway, I think
requirements should be processed automatically whenever something
changes on an inventory item.
Regards
Scott
Marcelo Hamra wrote:
> Ricardo,
> I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the
> products on a facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing >
> Approve Requirements on the screen. I've been taking a look at the
> runMrp service and I saw that there are events created on
> inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be the problem?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Regards
> Marcelo
>
>
>> From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>>
>> Hi Marcelo.
>> If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce
>> to a
>> facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that
>> facility.
>> If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>> minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing
>> those
>> products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>> checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they
>> all are
>> of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on
>> 'Submit
>> Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
>> which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>> Hope this helps.
>> Regards,
>>
>> -- Ricardo Chavez
>>
>> On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>>> produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't
>>> plan to
>>> enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders
>>> with
>>> the products I want to produce?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com>.
Ricardo,
I've associated minimum stock and reorder requirements for the products on a
facility and runned MRP. I see no Manufacturing > Approve Requirements on
the screen. I've been taking a look at the runMrp service and I saw that
there are events created on inventoryEventPlanned entity. What could be the
problem?
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Marcelo
>From: "Ricardo Chavez" <ri...@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>To: ofbiz-user@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: ProductionRun generation
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:49:47 -0500
>
>Hi Marcelo.
>If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to a
>facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that facility.
>If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
>minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing those
>products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
>checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all are
>of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on 'Submit
>Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
>which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
>Hope this helps.
>Regards,
>
>-- Ricardo Chavez
>
>On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi all,
>>How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
>>produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan to
>>enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders with
>>the products I want to produce?
>>
>>Regards
>>Marcelo
>>
>>
>>
Re: ProductionRun generation
Posted by Ricardo Chavez <ri...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marcelo.
If I'm not wrong, you can associate the products you need to produce to a
facility, specifying a minimum stock, and then run an MRP on that facility.
If the current stock for your products in that facility is below the
minimum, the MRP will create requirements for producing or purchasing those
products. Then go to Manufacturing > Approve Requirements, mark the
checkboxes corresponding to the recently created requirements (they all are
of type 'ProductionRun proposed by the MRP process') and click on 'Submit
Button' (strange name, I know :)). This will create the production runs,
which will have a name like 'MRP_<MRP name>'
Hope this helps.
Regards,
-- Ricardo Chavez
On 9/28/06, Marcelo Hamra <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> How can I generate several production runs for the products I need to
> produce? I readed that Shipment plans could be used, but I don't plan to
> enter sales orders in OFBIZ. Should I create "not real" sales orders with
> the products I want to produce?
>
> Regards
> Marcelo
>
>
>