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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Eric Yang <er...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/01 05:29:19 UTC

Re: Retirement decision making

+1 on active PMC duties would be fine to ensure continuation of the project.

regards,
Eric

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>wrote:

> On 30 November 2012 00:52, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hard cases make bad law. The rough parameters of the recent 'small
> > graduates' was that they had around 5 initial PMC members, and some
> > detectable evidence that all of them were in the reasonably regular
> > habit of contributing code, let alone voting for releases. If we
> > insist on testing the absolute lower limit of viability, we're may
> > bump into the absurd.
> >
>
> +1 (where "reasonably regular habit of contributing code" should be
> "reasonably regular habit of contributing in some way" - that is only being
> active in PMC duties would be fine, need not be active committer, as long
> as it is responsible activity (i.e. voting from an informed position)
>
> Ross
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > On 29/11/12 14:53, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ... Would you also add the three or more active PMC members
> > requirement?
> > >>> What constitutes active?...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> IMO the bare minimum is being able to find three PMC members to vote
> > >> on things when needed.
> > >>
> > >> Once a project gets below this limit it's in trouble and usually
> > >> headed for the attic, but that's not the only possibility - see
> > >> "Resolution to reboot the Apache Xalan PMC" at
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_07_20.txt
> > >> for example.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think we need to be a bit careful about graduating a podling that is
> a
> > > minimum viable project.  That's not say it shouldn't be done but if
> it's
> > > minimal, and looks ropey, then we're aren't doing us or them any
> favours
> > if
> > > the project looks likely to get into problems quite soon.  After all,
> > > graduation itself requires project resource.
> > >
> > >         Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> -Bertrand
> > >>
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