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Thunderbird
I use AOO and Office 2007. I use office word very little, just for certain
things like address labels, and Outlook. Can anyone tell me anything about
Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list? I want to see if I can
set up my groups and all of my addresses in Thunderbird and stop using
Outlook.
C. J. [Jack] Waters
Police Sergeant, Retired
Forensic Unit Manager, Retired
Tampa Police Department
Insight: "The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they
can bribe the people with their own money." -Alexis de Tocqueville
(1805-1859)
RE: Thunderbird
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
According to the linked report and the analysis commissioned from Simon Phipps, the Apache Software Foundation is not one of the top three under consideration.
Under a section on "Other Alternatives" there is a nice summary about how projects are operated under the ASF and also limitations to consider. Simon does not mention what is perhaps the most difficult limitation -- establishing code provenance and IP clearance under which Thunderbird source releases can be made under the Apache License. In addition, there are gating conditions on core developers (so-called initial committers) for the Apache incubation process. The ASF does not accept "code dumps" and needs some confidence that a sustainable project is coming over. I assume that it is in Mozilla's interests as well. The authors and supporters of Thunderbird extensions/themes/add-ins are also stakeholders in this matter.
- Dennis
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>
> Thanks.
>
> > On May 12, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Hal Parker <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just as a matter of interest, I assume you all know that Thunderbird
> may be
> > finding a new home this year, according to Mark Surman, executive
> director
> > of the Mozilla Foundation. This probably will make little or no
> difference
> > to users, since Thunderbird has been a purely volunteer-run project
> for the
> > past 4 years, but I find the prospect interesting, since The Apache
> > Foundation and The Document Foundation are both under consideration.
> > https://marksurman.commons.ca/2016/04/25/firefox-and-thunderbird-a-
> fork-in-the-road/
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by David Smith <da...@luda.net>.
Thanks.
> On May 12, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Hal Parker <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just as a matter of interest, I assume you all know that Thunderbird may be
> finding a new home this year, according to Mark Surman, executive director
> of the Mozilla Foundation. This probably will make little or no difference
> to users, since Thunderbird has been a purely volunteer-run project for the
> past 4 years, but I find the prospect interesting, since The Apache
> Foundation and The Document Foundation are both under consideration.
> https://marksurman.commons.ca/2016/04/25/firefox-and-thunderbird-a-fork-in-the-road/
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by Hal Parker <ha...@gmail.com>.
Just as a matter of interest, I assume you all know that Thunderbird may be
finding a new home this year, according to Mark Surman, executive director
of the Mozilla Foundation. This probably will make little or no difference
to users, since Thunderbird has been a purely volunteer-run project for the
past 4 years, but I find the prospect interesting, since The Apache
Foundation and The Document Foundation are both under consideration.
https://marksurman.commons.ca/2016/04/25/firefox-and-thunderbird-a-fork-in-the-road/
Re: Thunderbird
Posted by "Girvin R. Herr" <gh...@sbcglobal.net>.
On 05/11/2016 01:05 PM, Doug wrote:
>
> A program called FossaMail is a fork of an older version of
> Thunderbird, available for Windows and Linux. It is possible to print
> the address book out of FossaMail.
> Also, it will not change every six weeks, like Thunderbird! I have
> been using it on Linux for a couple of months, and I like it, having
> gotten a bit PO'd at Thunderbird.
> Try it and see for yourself--it's free.
>
> --doug
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Doug,
I am currently using Thunderbird 45.0 under Slackware Linux 14.1 and it
does allow printing the address book. Bring up the Address Book and
select File | Print Address Book...
It also has options to print a single contact or print preview either
option.
I agree the frequent updates are a PITA, and I am not sure they are all
needed security updates. It is only slightly better than, ugh, the
Flash plugin. However, I usually do monthly backups and install
security upgrades from Slackware after the backup. Therefore, my TB
updates are on a monthly rate. So what if I miss an intermediate
update. I am only "missing something" for two weeks.
I have been using TB for years and I find that it is easy to use and
configuration has gotten very easy lately. On a new installation, it is
now "automagically" going out to my ISP and getting the server names and
configuration to use, but it can be manually changed if need be. That
is hard to beat.
Use whatever tool fits your hand.
HTH
Girvin Herr
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by Doug <dm...@optonline.net>.
On 05/11/2016 10:06 AM, toki wrote:
> Jack Waters wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me anything about Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list?
> Some of us can write 10,000 page epistles on Thunderbird, which, upon
> reading, won't even approach use-cases, or specific scenarios you might
> have.
>
>> I want to see if I can set up my groups and all of my addresses in
> Thunderbird
> You can setup address books for Thunderbird.
> However, the file format used for address books is defiantly not human
> readable, and, arguably, not machine readable. Outside of very old
> versions of Firefox, oldish versions of SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, and,
> allegedly, LibreOffice, but not Apache OpenOffice, nothing can correctly
> read the address book.
> Adding insult to injury,
> is not very good at importing foreign address books.
>
> You can setup groups for Thunderbird.
> I've forgotten the associated caveats. :(
>
>> and stop using Outlook.
> Whether or not Thunderbird can replace Outlook for you, depends upon
> what you use Outlook for, and how you use it for that purpose.
>
> jonathon
>
>
A program called FossaMail is a fork of an older version of Thunderbird,
available for Windows and Linux. It is possible to print the address
book out of FossaMail.
Also, it will not change every six weeks, like Thunderbird! I have been
using it on Linux for a couple of months, and I like it, having gotten a
bit PO'd at Thunderbird.
Try it and see for yourself--it's free.
--doug
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RE: Thunderbird
Posted by toki <to...@gmail.com>.
Jack Waters wrote:
> Can anyone tell me anything about Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list?
Some of us can write 10,000 page epistles on Thunderbird, which, upon
reading, won't even approach use-cases, or specific scenarios you might
have.
> I want to see if I can set up my groups and all of my addresses in
Thunderbird
You can setup address books for Thunderbird.
However, the file format used for address books is defiantly not human
readable, and, arguably, not machine readable. Outside of very old
versions of Firefox, oldish versions of SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, and,
allegedly, LibreOffice, but not Apache OpenOffice, nothing can correctly
read the address book.
Adding insult to injury,
is not very good at importing foreign address books.
You can setup groups for Thunderbird.
I've forgotten the associated caveats. :(
>and stop using Outlook.
Whether or not Thunderbird can replace Outlook for you, depends upon
what you use Outlook for, and how you use it for that purpose.
jonathon
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by FKnapp <fh...@advancedetek.com>.
I have used Thunderbird since it came out and they made sure it is the
servant and not the master. Easy to setup, has good built in tools for
selecting server connections and ports and selecting your desired level
of security. It will import all mail lists and settings, selectively if
you want.
GO FOR IT!
Floyd Knapp
On 5/11/2016 3:59 AM, James Knott wrote:
> On 05/11/2016 12:24 AM, Jack Waters wrote:
>> I use AOO and Office 2007. I use office word very little, just for certain
>> things like address labels, and Outlook. Can anyone tell me anything about
>> Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list? I want to see if I can
>> set up my groups and all of my addresses in Thunderbird and stop using
>> Outlook.
>>
>>
>>
> As one who has to endure Outlook at work, my question is why anyone
> would use it if they didn't have to? It's easily the worst email app
> I've ever used. Thunderbird is much better. Go for it!
>
>
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>.
On 05/11/2016 12:24 AM, Jack Waters wrote:
> I use AOO and Office 2007. I use office word very little, just for certain
> things like address labels, and Outlook. Can anyone tell me anything about
> Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list? I want to see if I can
> set up my groups and all of my addresses in Thunderbird and stop using
> Outlook.
>
>
>
As one who has to endure Outlook at work, my question is why anyone
would use it if they didn't have to? It's easily the worst email app
I've ever used. Thunderbird is much better. Go for it!
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by James Plante <ji...@me.com>.
Jack,
It’s a free download, so just go to
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
and download it. Check the “Features” link at the bottom of that page. Google around for tutorials and forums.
Like any FOSS (Free/Open Source Software) it will have a learning curve. It will do things differently from Outlook. I “think" you can set it up as a data source in AOO, and use that for your mailing labels. (There are label templates out there. You’ll have to look for them.)
Hope this helps.
Jim Plante
> On May 10, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Jack Waters <tp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I use AOO and Office 2007. I use office word very little, just for certain
> things like address labels, and Outlook. Can anyone tell me anything about
> Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list? I want to see if I can
> set up my groups and all of my addresses in Thunderbird and stop using
> Outlook.
>
>
>
> C. J. [Jack] Waters
>
> Police Sergeant, Retired
>
> Forensic Unit Manager, Retired
>
> Tampa Police Department
>
> Insight: "The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they
> can bribe the people with their own money." -Alexis de Tocqueville
> (1805-1859)
>
>
>
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by James Knott <ja...@rogers.com>.
On 05/11/2016 11:28 AM, Don Morse wrote:
> 1) Install Lightning (calendar extension)
Lightning is now built in.
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Re: Thunderbird
Posted by Don Morse <do...@blackpalace.com>.
On 05/10/16 21:24, Jack Waters wrote:
> I use AOO and Office 2007. I use office word very little, just for certain
> things like address labels, and Outlook. Can anyone tell me anything about
> Thunderbird, or give me info on a Thunderbird list? I want to see if I can
> set up my groups and all of my addresses in Thunderbird and stop using
> Outlook.
>
>
>
> C. J. [Jack] Waters
>
> Police Sergeant, Retired
>
> Forensic Unit Manager, Retired
>
> Tampa Police Department
>
> Insight: "The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they
> can bribe the people with their own money." -Alexis de Tocqueville
> (1805-1859)
>
>
>
>
Jack,
I've used Thunderbird since, well, I don't remember it's been so long.
I hated
Outbreak when it came out, and the support I have to provide(I'm the de
facto IT head here),
to keep thatmiserable pile of crap running makes me grind my teeth.
Thunderbird does everything a mail/organizer is supposed todo. I have
35 different
email accounts set-up on it, to deal with our various domains, and
probably over 1000 mail
filters to direct mail to the appropriate folders.
IMAP is the way to go as it syncs my mail across my various computers,
tablets, and phone.
Things to do when you install TBird.
1) Install Lightning (calendar extension)
2) Provider for Google Calendar, (allows sync with google calendars). If
you're an Android
phone user, it will allow you to sync calendars across all devices with
your gmail login.
3) INSTALL "DISABLE DRAG N DROP". This little gem is awesome. I can't
tell you how many
times I accidentally dragged a folder into another one and didn't know I
did it. Then, could
not find the folder. This prevents that and it's great.
4) Install "Folder Pane View Switcher". Great extension for switching
folder views.
5) Install "ThunderKeep". Again, if Android, this puts Google Keep in a
tab in TBirdand allows
syncing across all devices.
there are other great extension you can add to extend the functionality
of TBird,and that's the
difference with open source software. Stuff from SoftSquishy (Micro$oft)
is designed to make
the shareholders rich. Software from Open Source is designed to solve
problems, accomplish
tasks, and work for the user.
I have tomaintain Outbreak for the people here, but I don't have to use
it. Exercising my right
of freedom of choice, I choose to use a functional piece of software
instead of blindly following
the SoftSquishy lemmings over the cliff.
don morse