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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com> on 2015/09/29 22:33:01 UTC
Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Hey,
We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our users better when we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first attempt, I created a survey that we could send out to developers who use Cordova for creating the apps.
The survey is available here at https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co. You can use the apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in committer SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they like and hate about it.
What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
survey looks great, yes I agree let's send it now to see how much data we
collect by F2F time frame.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Looks like the URL had a dot at the end. Here is the URL that worked for me
>
> https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhilkh@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:21 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> Thanks for all the input! Here's the final public facing URL:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapachecordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c86396d50c82d42e0359b08d2cdd34a0d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=9k5%2b3HCFfW%2fCVjQMMmPBSy71bM3lWMQJQifwyhF5dTs%3d
>
> It will be great to get some of this data before the F2F meeting. Let's
> all tweet about it, post it on slack etc.
>
> In couple of days we can see if we can want to make more tweaks to this
> and then put out a v2 on the cordova website as a banner.
>
> -Nikhil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrey Kurdumov [mailto:kant2002@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:42 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova
> platforms and CLI" on two separate questions.
> Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I
> would range on the 8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer
> to 4 (need significant improvements) for me.
> Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select
> which part is more important for me.
>
> 2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Yeah I like "released"
> >
> > Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
> >
> > - Carlos
> > Sent from my iPhone 6s
> >
> > > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> > > How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no
> > > doubt, but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making
> > > the app developer experience better. There is a multitude of
> > > non-cordova factors that affect usage; (price, design, app type,
> > > market competition, ... ) Personally I think usage stats are
> > > probably more relevant in the app showcase pages, or in another usage
> targeted survey.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My team is hiring!
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=
> > > 01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7e942
> > > 7%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2fGKr5eM
> > > EdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana
> > >> <cs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be
> > >> good to use a different word than "published". I personally
> > >> associate that with
> > a
> > >> App Store on quick read
> > >>
> > >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they
> > >> have them in production internally because they are business to
> > >> employee or business to business.
> > >>
> > >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently
> > >> being actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of
> > >> apps not
> > being
> > >> distributed by public store
> > >>
> > >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis?
> > >> Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by?
> > >> Like I
> > have
> > >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by
> > 50,000
> > >> users :-)
> > >>
> > >> - Carlos
> > >> Sent from my iPhone 6s
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I was able to update the survey.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing
> '?'
> > >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> > >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> > >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> > >>>
> > >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> > >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> > >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as
> > >>> I
> > think
> > >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> > >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free
> > version.
> > >>>
> > >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have
> > >>> published
> > >> more
> > >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot,
> > >>> but
> > I
> > >>> could be wrong.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> My team is hiring!
> > >>> @purplecabbage
> > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&dat
> > >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7
> > >>> e9427%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2f
> > >>> GKr5eMEdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N
> > >>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> > >> credentials
> > >>>> in SVN, right ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> > >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> My team is hiring!
> > >>>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> > cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> > >> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey
> > >>>>>> sent
> > >> out.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a
> > friend
> > >> of
> > >>>>>> colleague"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse
> > >>>>>>> <pu...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> > >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> > cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> > >> panarasi@microsoft.com
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ?
> > Can I
> > >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This
> > >>>>>>>> is at
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=0
> > 1%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7
> > c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD
> > %2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> > >> ,
> > >>>> and you can login via Google -
> > >>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> > >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> > >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> > >>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Something like this?
> > >>>>>>>> ===
> > >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present,
> > >>>>>>>> check
> > >>>> all
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>> apply :
> > >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
> > >>>>>>>> Console Contacts
> > >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer) Device Orientation
> > >>>>>>>> (Compass) Dialogs FileSystem File Transfer Geolocation
> > >>>>>>>> Globalization InAppBrowser Media Media Capture Network
> > >>>>>>>> Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> > >>>> Vibration
> > >>>>>>>> StatusBar
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party
> > >>>>>>>> plugin
> > >>>> that
> > >>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>> use all the time?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> > >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5
> > iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> > >>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback
> > >>>>>>>>> from
> > the
> > >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom.
> > About
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> > >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> > >>>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> > >>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins
> area.
> > >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> > >>>> problems,
> > >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which
> > >>>>>>>>>> plugin you
> > >>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code
> > >>>>>>>>>> (i.e push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser
> > >>>>>>>>>> <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>> general
> > >>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> > >>>>>> responses
> > >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> > >>>> myself.
> > >>>>>> Do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> > >>>> kept it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> > >>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
> > >>>> change it
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> > >>>>>> Cordova
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> > >>>>>> shouldn't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> they
> > >>>> hate
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> > >>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and narrow it down to actionable things that we can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> actually
> > >>>> change.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@brian.io>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> > >>>> to do
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> > >>>> about
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be interesting to try to get some
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a first attempt,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
> > >>>>>> use
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
> > >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typef
> > orm.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa2
> > 08d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2f
> > fS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> > >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=
> > 01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%
> > 7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59G
> > ALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
> > >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> > >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> credentials
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> > >>>> directly.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> > >>>> what
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> > >>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> > >>>>>>>>> ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> > >>>>>> developers ?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>
> > ======================================================================
> > >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at
> > >>>>>>>>> IBM
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com Blog :
> > >>>>>>
> > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamde
> > >> n.c
> > >>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> > >>>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> > >>>>>>
> > 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> > >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> > >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
> > >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Looks like the URL had a dot at the end. Here is the URL that worked for me
https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co
-----Original Message-----
From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhilkh@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:21 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Thanks for all the input! Here's the final public facing URL: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapachecordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c86396d50c82d42e0359b08d2cdd34a0d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=9k5%2b3HCFfW%2fCVjQMMmPBSy71bM3lWMQJQifwyhF5dTs%3d
It will be great to get some of this data before the F2F meeting. Let's all tweet about it, post it on slack etc.
In couple of days we can see if we can want to make more tweaks to this and then put out a v2 on the cordova website as a banner.
-Nikhil
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Kurdumov [mailto:kant2002@googlemail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:42 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova platforms and CLI" on two separate questions.
Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I would range on the 8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer to 4 (need significant improvements) for me.
Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select which part is more important for me.
2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>:
> Yeah I like "released"
>
> Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> > How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
> >
> > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no
> > doubt, but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making
> > the app developer experience better. There is a multitude of
> > non-cordova factors that affect usage; (price, design, app type,
> > market competition, ... ) Personally I think usage stats are
> > probably more relevant in the app showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=
> > 01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7e942
> > 7%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2fGKr5eM
> > EdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana
> >> <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be
> >> good to use a different word than "published". I personally
> >> associate that with
> a
> >> App Store on quick read
> >>
> >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they
> >> have them in production internally because they are business to
> >> employee or business to business.
> >>
> >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently
> >> being actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of
> >> apps not
> being
> >> distributed by public store
> >>
> >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis?
> >> Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by?
> >> Like I
> have
> >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by
> 50,000
> >> users :-)
> >>
> >> - Carlos
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s
> >>
> >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was able to update the survey.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> >>>
> >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as
> >>> I
> think
> >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free
> version.
> >>>
> >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have
> >>> published
> >> more
> >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot,
> >>> but
> I
> >>> could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My team is hiring!
> >>> @purplecabbage
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&dat
> >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7
> >>> e9427%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2f
> >>> GKr5eMEdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N
> >>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> >> credentials
> >>>> in SVN, right ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> >> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey
> >>>>>> sent
> >> out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a
> friend
> >> of
> >>>>>> colleague"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse
> >>>>>>> <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> >> panarasi@microsoft.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ?
> Can I
> >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This
> >>>>>>>> is at
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=0
> 1%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7
> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD
> %2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> >> ,
> >>>> and you can login via Google -
> >>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something like this?
> >>>>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present,
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> apply :
> >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
> >>>>>>>> Console Contacts
> >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer) Device Orientation
> >>>>>>>> (Compass) Dialogs FileSystem File Transfer Geolocation
> >>>>>>>> Globalization InAppBrowser Media Media Capture Network
> >>>>>>>> Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> >>>> Vibration
> >>>>>>>> StatusBar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party
> >>>>>>>> plugin
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> use all the time?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5
> iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> >>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback
> >>>>>>>>> from
> the
> >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom.
> About
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> >>>> problems,
> >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which
> >>>>>>>>>> plugin you
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code
> >>>>>>>>>> (i.e push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser
> >>>>>>>>>> <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> >>>> myself.
> >>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> >>>> kept it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
> >>>> change it
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> >>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>> hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and narrow it down to actionable things that we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> actually
> >>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@brian.io>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> >>>> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be interesting to try to get some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a first attempt,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typef
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> fS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=
> 01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%
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> >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>> credentials
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> >>>> directly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> >>>>>> developers ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> ======================================================================
> >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at
> >>>>>>>>> IBM
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com Blog :
> >>>>>>
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamde
> >> n.c
> >>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
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> >>>>>>
> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ----
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> >>>>
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RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Nikhil Khandelwal <ni...@microsoft.com>.
Thanks for all the input! Here's the final public facing URL: https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co.
It will be great to get some of this data before the F2F meeting. Let's all tweet about it, post it on slack etc.
In couple of days we can see if we can want to make more tweaks to this and then put out a v2 on the cordova website as a banner.
-Nikhil
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Kurdumov [mailto:kant2002@googlemail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:42 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova platforms and CLI" on two separate questions.
Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I would range on the 8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer to 4 (need significant improvements) for me.
Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select which part is more important for me.
2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>:
> Yeah I like "released"
>
> Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> > How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
> >
> > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no
> > doubt, but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making
> > the app developer experience better. There is a multitude of
> > non-cordova factors that affect usage; (price, design, app type,
> > market competition, ... ) Personally I think usage stats are
> > probably more relevant in the app showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=
> > 01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7e942
> > 7%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2fGKr5eM
> > EdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana
> >> <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be
> >> good to use a different word than "published". I personally
> >> associate that with
> a
> >> App Store on quick read
> >>
> >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they
> >> have them in production internally because they are business to
> >> employee or business to business.
> >>
> >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently
> >> being actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of
> >> apps not
> being
> >> distributed by public store
> >>
> >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis?
> >> Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by?
> >> Like I
> have
> >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by
> 50,000
> >> users :-)
> >>
> >> - Carlos
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s
> >>
> >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was able to update the survey.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> >>>
> >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as
> >>> I
> think
> >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free
> version.
> >>>
> >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have
> >>> published
> >> more
> >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot,
> >>> but
> I
> >>> could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My team is hiring!
> >>> @purplecabbage
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&dat
> >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7
> >>> e9427%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2f
> >>> GKr5eMEdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N
> >>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> >> credentials
> >>>> in SVN, right ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> >> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey
> >>>>>> sent
> >> out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a
> friend
> >> of
> >>>>>> colleague"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse
> >>>>>>> <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> >> panarasi@microsoft.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ?
> Can I
> >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This
> >>>>>>>> is at
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=0
> 1%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7
> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD
> %2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> >> ,
> >>>> and you can login via Google -
> >>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something like this?
> >>>>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present,
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> apply :
> >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
> >>>>>>>> Console Contacts
> >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer) Device Orientation
> >>>>>>>> (Compass) Dialogs FileSystem File Transfer Geolocation
> >>>>>>>> Globalization InAppBrowser Media Media Capture Network
> >>>>>>>> Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> >>>> Vibration
> >>>>>>>> StatusBar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party
> >>>>>>>> plugin
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> use all the time?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5
> iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> >>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback
> >>>>>>>>> from
> the
> >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom.
> About
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> >>>> problems,
> >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which
> >>>>>>>>>> plugin you
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code
> >>>>>>>>>> (i.e push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser
> >>>>>>>>>> <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> >>>> myself.
> >>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> >>>> kept it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
> >>>> change it
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> >>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>> hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and narrow it down to actionable things that we can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> actually
> >>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@brian.io>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> >>>> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be interesting to try to get some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a first attempt,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> >>>>
> >>
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> fS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> >>>>
> >>
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> ALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
> >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>> credentials
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> >>>> directly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> >>>>>> developers ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> ======================================================================
> >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at
> >>>>>>>>> IBM
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com Blog :
> >>>>>>
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamde
> >> n.c
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> >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ----
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Andrey Kurdumov <ka...@googlemail.com>.
Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova
platforms and CLI" on two separate questions.
Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I
would range on the 8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer
to 4 (need significant improvements) for me.
Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select
which part is more important for me.
2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>:
> Yeah I like "released"
>
> Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> > How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
> >
> > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no doubt,
> > but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making the app
> > developer experience better. There is a multitude of non-cordova factors
> > that affect usage; (price, design, app type, market competition, ... )
> > Personally I think usage stats are probably more relevant in the app
> > showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be good to
> >> use a different word than "published". I personally associate that with
> a
> >> App Store on quick read
> >>
> >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they have
> >> them in production internally because they are business to employee or
> >> business to business.
> >>
> >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently being
> >> actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of apps not
> being
> >> distributed by public store
> >>
> >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? Is
> >> that important to know how many users is the app being used by? Like I
> have
> >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by
> 50,000
> >> users :-)
> >>
> >> - Carlos
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s
> >>
> >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was able to update the survey.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> >>>
> >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I
> think
> >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free
> version.
> >>>
> >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published
> >> more
> >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but
> I
> >>> could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My team is hiring!
> >>> @purplecabbage
> >>> risingj.com
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> >> credentials
> >>>> in SVN, right ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> >> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent
> >> out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a
> friend
> >> of
> >>>>>> colleague"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> >> panarasi@microsoft.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ?
> Can I
> >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> >> ,
> >>>> and you can login via Google -
> >>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something like this?
> >>>>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> apply :
> >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
> >>>>>>>> Console Contacts
> >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> >>>>>>>> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> >>>>>>>> FileSystem File Transfer
> >>>>>>>> Geolocation Globalization
> >>>>>>>> InAppBrowser Media
> >>>>>>>> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> >>>> Vibration
> >>>>>>>> StatusBar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> use all the time?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> >>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from
> the
> >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom.
> About
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> >>>> problems,
> >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> >>>>>>>>>> push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> >>>> myself.
> >>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> >>>> kept it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
> >>>> change it
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> >>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they
> >>>> hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
> >>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> >>>> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be interesting to try to get some data
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first attempt,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers who
> >>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> >>>>
> >>
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> >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>> credentials
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> >>>> directly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> >>>>>> developers ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> ======================================================================
> >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> Blog :
> >>>>>>
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> >>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> >>>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> >>>>>>
> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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> >>>>
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
Yeah I like "released"
Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone 6s
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
>
> I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no doubt,
> but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making the app
> developer experience better. There is a multitude of non-cordova factors
> that affect usage; (price, design, app type, market competition, ... )
> Personally I think usage stats are probably more relevant in the app
> showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
>
>
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be good to
>> use a different word than "published". I personally associate that with a
>> App Store on quick read
>>
>> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they have
>> them in production internally because they are business to employee or
>> business to business.
>>
>> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently being
>> actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of apps not being
>> distributed by public store
>>
>> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? Is
>> that important to know how many users is the app being used by? Like I have
>> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by 50,000
>> users :-)
>>
>> - Carlos
>> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was able to update the survey.
>>>
>>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
>>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
>>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
>>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
>>>
>>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
>>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
>>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I think
>>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
>>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free version.
>>>
>>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published
>> more
>>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but I
>>> could be wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My team is hiring!
>>> @purplecabbage
>>> risingj.com
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
>> credentials
>>>> in SVN, right ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
>>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
>> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent
>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend
>> of
>>>>>> colleague"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
>> panarasi@microsoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
>>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
>> ,
>>>> and you can login via Google -
>>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
>>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something like this?
>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
>>>> all
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> apply :
>>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
>>>>>>>> Console Contacts
>>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
>>>>>>>> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
>>>>>>>> FileSystem File Transfer
>>>>>>>> Geolocation Globalization
>>>>>>>> InAppBrowser Media
>>>>>>>> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
>>>> Vibration
>>>>>>>> StatusBar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
>>>> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> use all the time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
>>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
>>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
>>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
>>>> problems,
>>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
>>>>>>>>>> push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
>>>>>> responses
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
>>>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
>>>> myself.
>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
>>>> kept it
>>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
>>>> change it
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
>>>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they
>>>> hate
>>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
>>>>>>>>>>>> narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
>>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be interesting to try to get some data
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first attempt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers who
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
>>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
>>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
>>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
>>>> credentials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
>>>> directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
>>>>>> developers ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ======================================================================
>>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Blog :
>>>>>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
>>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
>>>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
>>>>>> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
>>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no doubt,
but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making the app
developer experience better. There is a multitude of non-cordova factors
that affect usage; (price, design, app type, market competition, ... )
Personally I think usage stats are probably more relevant in the app
showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be good to
> use a different word than "published". I personally associate that with a
> App Store on quick read
>
> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they have
> them in production internally because they are business to employee or
> business to business.
>
> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently being
> actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of apps not being
> distributed by public store
>
> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? Is
> that important to know how many users is the app being used by? Like I have
> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by 50,000
> users :-)
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was able to update the survey.
> >
> > 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> > 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> > 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> > 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> >
> > Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> > How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> > I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I think
> > it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> > conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free version.
> >
> > I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published
> more
> > than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but I
> > could be wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> credentials
> >> in SVN, right ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My team is hiring!
> >>> @purplecabbage
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent
> out.
> >>>>
> >>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend
> of
> >>>> colleague"
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> panarasi@microsoft.com
> >>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
> >>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> ,
> >> and you can login via Google -
> >>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Something like this?
> >>>>>> ===
> >>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
> >> all
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>> apply :
> >>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
> >>>>>> Console Contacts
> >>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> >>>>>> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> >>>>>> FileSystem File Transfer
> >>>>>> Geolocation Globalization
> >>>>>> InAppBrowser Media
> >>>>>> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> >> Vibration
> >>>>>> StatusBar
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
> >> that
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> use all the time?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> >> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> >>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> >>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> >> problems,
> >>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> >>>>>>>> push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
> >>>> general
> >>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> >>>> responses
> >>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> >> myself.
> >>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> >> kept it
> >>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
> >> change it
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> >>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they
> >> hate
> >>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough
> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> >>>>>>>>>> narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
> >> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> >> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> >>>>>>>>>>> will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> >> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be interesting to try to get some data
> >> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> >>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> first attempt,
> >>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers who
> >>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ra
> >>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
> >>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> >>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> >>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> >>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> >> credentials
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> >>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> >> directly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> >> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> >>>> developers ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>> ======================================================================
> >>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> Blog :
> >>>>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> >>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> >>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> >>>> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> >>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be good to use a different word than "published". I personally associate that with a App Store on quick read
Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they have them in production internally because they are business to employee or business to business.
What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently being actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of apps not being distributed by public store
Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by? Like I have one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by 50,000 users :-)
- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone 6s
> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was able to update the survey.
>
> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
>
> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I think
> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free version.
>
> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published more
> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but I
> could be wrong.
>
>
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the credentials
>> in SVN, right ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
>>>
>>>
>>> My team is hiring!
>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
>>>>
>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
>>>> colleague"
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d,
>> and you can login via Google -
>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something like this?
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
>> all
>>>>> that
>>>>>> apply :
>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera
>>>>>> Console Contacts
>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
>>>>>> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
>>>>>> FileSystem File Transfer
>>>>>> Geolocation Globalization
>>>>>> InAppBrowser Media
>>>>>> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
>> Vibration
>>>>>> StatusBar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
>> that
>>>> you
>>>>>> use all the time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
>>>> the
>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
>> problems,
>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
>>>> are
>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
>>>>>>>> push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
>>>> general
>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
>>>> responses
>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
>>>>>>>>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
>> myself.
>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
>> kept it
>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to
>> change it
>>>>> to
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question
>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they
>> hate
>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough
>> of
>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
>>>>>>>>>> narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
>>>>>>>>>>> will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be interesting to try to get some data
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> first attempt,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers who
>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
>> credentials
>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
>> directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our
>>>> developers ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>> ======================================================================
>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Blog :
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
>>>> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
I was able to update the survey.
1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I think
it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free version.
I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published more
than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but I
could be wrong.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the credentials
> in SVN, right ?
>
>
>
>
> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >
> >
> >My team is hiring!
> >@purplecabbage
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <da...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
> >>
> >> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
> >> colleague"
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Yep, I'll do that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My team is hiring!
> >> > @purplecabbage
> >> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
> >> > > request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> >> > >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d,
> and you can login via Google -
> >> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >> > > Password in the SVN repo.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >> > > developer survey
> >> > >
> >> > > Something like this?
> >> > > ===
> >> > > Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
> all
> >> > that
> >> > > apply :
> >> > > Battery StatusBar Camera
> >> > > Console Contacts
> >> > > Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> >> > > Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> >> > > FileSystem File Transfer
> >> > > Geolocation Globalization
> >> > > InAppBrowser Media
> >> > > Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> Vibration
> >> > > StatusBar
> >> > >
> >> > > Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
> that
> >> you
> >> > > use all the time?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > My team is hiring!
> >> > > @purplecabbage
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> >> > > > folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
> >> the
> >> > > > plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >> > > > developer survey
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> >> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> >> > > > > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
> problems,
> >> > > > > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
> >> are
> >> > > > > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> >> > > > > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
> >> general
> >> > > > >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> >> responses
> >> > > > >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >> > > > >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it
> myself.
> >> Do
> >> > > > >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I
> kept it
> >> > > > >> > open ended was
> >> > > > >> to
> >> > > > >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to
> change it
> >> > to
> >> > > ?
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >> > > > >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> >> Cordova
> >> > > > >> > developer survey
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> >> shouldn't
> >> > > > >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they
> hate
> >> > > > >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough
> of
> >> > > > >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> >> > > > >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
> change.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> to do
> >> > > > >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> >> > > > >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> >> > > > >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Hey,
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list
> about
> >> > > > >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >> > > > >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> >> > > > >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data
> and
> >> > > > >> > > > understand our users better
> >> > > > >> > > when
> >> > > > >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> >> > > > >> > > > first attempt,
> >> > > > >> > > I
> >> > > > >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who
> >> use
> >> > > > >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > The survey is available here at
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >> > > > >> > > > f%
> >> > > > >> > > > 2fapa
> >> > > > >> > > >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >> > > > >> > > > ra
> >> > > > >> > > > si%40
> >> > > > >> > > >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
> >> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >> > > > >> > > > f1
> >> > > > >> > > > 41af9
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >> > > > >> > > > OC
> >> > > > >> > > > FG68P
> >> > > > >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> >> > > > >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>
> credentials
> >> > > > >> > > > (in
> >> > > > >> > > committer
> >> > > > >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions
> directly.
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and
> what
> >> > > > >> > > > they like
> >> > > > >> > > and
> >> > > > >> > > > hate about it.
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this
> be
> >> > > > >> > > > useful
> >> > > > ?
> >> > > > >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> >> developers ?
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >
> >> ======================================================================
> >> > > > ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> >> > > > Blog :
> >> > > >
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> >> > > > om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> >> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> >> > > >
> >> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> >> > > > T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >> > > > Twitter: raymondcamden
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the credentials in SVN, right ?
On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
>Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
>
>
>My team is hiring!
>@purplecabbage
>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>
>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <da...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
>>
>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
>> colleague"
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Yep, I'll do that.
>> >
>> >
>> > My team is hiring!
>> > @purplecabbage
>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
>> > > request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
>> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d, and you can login via Google -
>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
>> > > Password in the SVN repo.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
>> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>> > > developer survey
>> > >
>> > > Something like this?
>> > > ===
>> > > Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all
>> > that
>> > > apply :
>> > > Battery StatusBar Camera
>> > > Console Contacts
>> > > Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
>> > > Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
>> > > FileSystem File Transfer
>> > > Geolocation Globalization
>> > > InAppBrowser Media
>> > > Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen Vibration
>> > > StatusBar
>> > >
>> > > Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that
>> you
>> > > use all the time?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > My team is hiring!
>> > > @purplecabbage
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
>> > > > folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
>> the
>> > > > plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
>> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>> > > > developer survey
>> > > >
>> > > > Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
>> > > > > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
>> > > > > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
>> are
>> > > > > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
>> > > > > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
>> general
>> > > > >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
>> responses
>> > > > >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
>> > > > >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself.
>> Do
>> > > > >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
>> > > > >> > open ended was
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it
>> > to
>> > > ?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>> > > > >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
>> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
>> Cordova
>> > > > >> > developer survey
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question
>> shouldn't
>> > > > >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
>> > > > >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of
>> > > > >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
>> > > > >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
>> > > > >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
>> > > > >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
>> > > > >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > Hey,
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
>> > > > >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
>> > > > >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
>> > > > >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
>> > > > >> > > > understand our users better
>> > > > >> > > when
>> > > > >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
>> > > > >> > > > first attempt,
>> > > > >> > > I
>> > > > >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who
>> use
>> > > > >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > The survey is available here at
>> > > > >> > > >
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
>> > > > >> > > > f%
>> > > > >> > > > 2fapa
>> > > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
>> > > > >> > > > ra
>> > > > >> > > > si%40
>> > > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
>> > > > >> > > > f1
>> > > > >> > > > 41af9
>> > > > >> > > >
>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
>> > > > >> > > > OC
>> > > > >> > > > FG68P
>> > > > >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
>> > > > >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials
>> > > > >> > > > (in
>> > > > >> > > committer
>> > > > >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
>> > > > >> > > > they like
>> > > > >> > > and
>> > > > >> > > > hate about it.
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be
>> > > > >> > > > useful
>> > > > ?
>> > > > >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our
>> developers ?
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> ======================================================================
>> > > > ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>> > > >
>> > > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>> > > > Blog :
>> > > >
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
>> > > > om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
>> > > >
>> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
>> > > > T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
>> > > > Twitter: raymondcamden
>> > > >
>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
>
> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
> colleague"
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, I'll do that.
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > risingj.com
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
> > > request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> > > Typeform.com, and you can login via Google -
> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> > > Password in the SVN repo.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > > developer survey
> > >
> > > Something like this?
> > > ===
> > > Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all
> > that
> > > apply :
> > > Battery StatusBar Camera
> > > Console Contacts
> > > Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> > > Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> > > FileSystem File Transfer
> > > Geolocation Globalization
> > > InAppBrowser Media
> > > Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen Vibration
> > > StatusBar
> > >
> > > Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that
> you
> > > use all the time?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My team is hiring!
> > > @purplecabbage
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> > > > folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> > > >
> > > > @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About
> the
> > > > plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > > > developer survey
> > > >
> > > > Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> > > > > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> > > > > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you
> are
> > > > > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> > > > > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to
> general
> > > > >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative
> responses
> > > > >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> > > > >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself.
> Do
> > > > >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
> > > > >> > open ended was
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it
> > to
> > > ?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> > > > >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better -
> Cordova
> > > > >> > developer survey
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question
> shouldn't
> > > > >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
> > > > >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of
> > > > >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> > > > >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
> > > > >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> > > > >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> > > > >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Hey,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> > > > >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > > >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> > > > >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
> > > > >> > > > understand our users better
> > > > >> > > when
> > > > >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> > > > >> > > > first attempt,
> > > > >> > > I
> > > > >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who
> use
> > > > >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > The survey is available here at
> > > > >> > > >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> > > > >> > > > f%
> > > > >> > > > 2fapa
> > > > >> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com
> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> > > > >> > > > ra
> > > > >> > > > si%40
> > > > >> > > > microsoft.com
> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> > > > >> > > > f1
> > > > >> > > > 41af9
> > > > >> > > >
> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> > > > >> > > > OC
> > > > >> > > > FG68P
> > > > >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> > > > >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials
> > > > >> > > > (in
> > > > >> > > committer
> > > > >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
> > > > >> > > > they like
> > > > >> > > and
> > > > >> > > > hate about it.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be
> > > > >> > > > useful
> > > > ?
> > > > >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our
> developers ?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> ======================================================================
> > > > ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> > > >
> > > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> > > > Blog :
> > > >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> > > > om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> > > >
> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> > > > T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> > > > Twitter: raymondcamden
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Dave Johnson <da...@gmail.com>.
we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
"how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
colleague"
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, I'll do that.
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
> > request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> > Typeform.com, and you can login via Google - apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> > Password in the SVN repo.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > developer survey
> >
> > Something like this?
> > ===
> > Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all
> that
> > apply :
> > Battery StatusBar Camera
> > Console Contacts
> > Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> > Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> > FileSystem File Transfer
> > Geolocation Globalization
> > InAppBrowser Media
> > Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen Vibration
> > StatusBar
> >
> > Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that you
> > use all the time?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> >
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> > > folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> > >
> > > @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About the
> > > plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > > developer survey
> > >
> > > Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> > > > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> > > > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are
> > > > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> > > > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
> > > >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses
> > > >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> > > >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do
> > > >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
> > > >> > open ended was
> > > >> to
> > > >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it
> to
> > ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> > > >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> > > >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > > >> > developer survey
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't
> > > >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
> > > >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of
> > > >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> > > >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
> > > >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> > > >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> > > >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hey,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> > > >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> > > >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
> > > >> > > > understand our users better
> > > >> > > when
> > > >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> > > >> > > > first attempt,
> > > >> > > I
> > > >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > > >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The survey is available here at
> > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> > > >> > > > f%
> > > >> > > > 2fapa
> > > >> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> > > >> > > > ra
> > > >> > > > si%40
> > > >> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> > > >> > > > f1
> > > >> > > > 41af9
> > > >> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> > > >> > > > OC
> > > >> > > > FG68P
> > > >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> > > >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials
> > > >> > > > (in
> > > >> > > committer
> > > >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
> > > >> > > > they like
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > > hate about it.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be
> > > >> > > > useful
> > > ?
> > > >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ======================================================================
> > > ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> > >
> > > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> > > Blog :
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> > > om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> > > 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> > > T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> > > Twitter: raymondcamden
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Yep, I'll do that.
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I
> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
> Typeform.com, and you can login via Google - apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> Password in the SVN repo.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> Something like this?
> ===
> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all that
> apply :
> Battery StatusBar Camera
> Console Contacts
> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
> FileSystem File Transfer
> Geolocation Globalization
> InAppBrowser Media
> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen Vibration
> StatusBar
>
> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that you
> use all the time?
>
>
>
>
>
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> > folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >
> > @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About the
> > plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > developer survey
> >
> > Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> > > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> > > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are
> > > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> > > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
> > >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses
> > >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> > >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do
> > >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
> > >> > open ended was
> > >> to
> > >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to
> ?
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> > >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> > >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > >> > developer survey
> > >> >
> > >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't
> > >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
> > >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of
> > >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> > >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
> > >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> > >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> > >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hey,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> > >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> > >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
> > >> > > > understand our users better
> > >> > > when
> > >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> > >> > > > first attempt,
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The survey is available here at
> > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> > >> > > > f%
> > >> > > > 2fapa
> > >> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> > >> > > > ra
> > >> > > > si%40
> > >> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> > >> > > > f1
> > >> > > > 41af9
> > >> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> > >> > > > OC
> > >> > > > FG68P
> > >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> > >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials
> > >> > > > (in
> > >> > > committer
> > >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
> > >> > > > they like
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > hate about it.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be
> > >> > > > useful
> > ?
> > >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ======================================================================
> > ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
> >
> > Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> > Blog :
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> > om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> > 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> > T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> > Twitter: raymondcamden
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >
> >
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> >
>
RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can I request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at Typeform.com, and you can login via Google - apachecordovabot@gmail.com. Password in the SVN repo.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Something like this?
===
Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all that apply :
Battery StatusBar Camera
Console Contacts
Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
FileSystem File Transfer
Geolocation Globalization
InAppBrowser Media
Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen Vibration StatusBar
Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that you use all the time?
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the
> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>
> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About the
> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are
> > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e
> > push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
> >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses
> >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do
> >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
> >> > open ended was
> >> to
> >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >> > developer survey
> >> >
> >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't
> >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
> >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of
> >> > that already. What we should do with this survey is try and
> >> > narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
> >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we
> >> > > will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at
> >> > > 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hey,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
> >> > > > understand our users better
> >> > > when
> >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a
> >> > > > first attempt,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The survey is available here at
> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >> > > > f%
> >> > > > 2fapa
> >> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >> > > > ra
> >> > > > si%40
> >> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >> > > > f1
> >> > > > 41af9
> >> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >> > > > OC
> >> > > > FG68P
> >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials
> >> > > > (in
> >> > > committer
> >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
> >> > > > they like
> >> > > and
> >> > > > hate about it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be
> >> > > > useful
> ?
> >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>
> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
> Blog :
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> Twitter: raymondcamden
>
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>
>
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Something like this?
===
Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check all that
apply :
Battery StatusBar Camera
Console Contacts
Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
FileSystem File Transfer
Geolocation Globalization
InAppBrowser Media
Media Capture Network Information (Connection)
Splashscreen Vibration
StatusBar
Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin that you
use all the time?
My team is hiring!
@purplecabbage
risingj.com
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the folks
> here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>
> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About the
> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> > What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> > how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are
> > always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e push
> > notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
> >> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses
> >> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
> >> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do
> >> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
> >> > open ended was
> >> to
> >> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> >> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> >> > developer survey
> >> >
> >> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't
> >> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
> >> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that
> >> > already. What we should do with this survey is try and narrow it
> >> > down to actionable things that we can actually change.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
> >> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will
> >> > > end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM
> >> > > Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hey,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> >> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> >> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
> >> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
> >> > > > understand our users better
> >> > > when
> >> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> >> > > > attempt,
> >> > > I
> >> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> >> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The survey is available here at
> >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%
> >> > > > 2fapa
> >> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanara
> >> > > > si%40
> >> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f1
> >> > > > 41af9
> >> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOC
> >> > > > FG68P
> >> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> >> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> >> > > committer
> >> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
> >> > > > they like
> >> > > and
> >> > > > hate about it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful
> ?
> >> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from the folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
@Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. About the plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems,
> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are
> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e push
> notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses
>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
>> <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do
>> > we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it
>> > open ended was
>> to
>> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>> > developer survey
>> >
>> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't
>> > just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate
>> > the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that
>> > already. What we should do with this survey is try and narrow it
>> > down to actionable things that we can actually change.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do
>> > > them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will
>> > > end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM
>> > > Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey,
>> > > >
>> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
>> > > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
>> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I
>> > > > thought it would be interesting to try to get some data and
>> > > > understand our users better
>> > > when
>> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
>> > > > attempt,
>> > > I
>> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
>> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
>> > > >
>> > > > The survey is available here at
>> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%
>> > > > 2fapa
>> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanara
>> > > > si%40
>> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f1
>> > > > 41af9
>> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOC
>> > > > FG68P
>> > > > daI%3d You can use the
>> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
>> > > committer
>> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
>> > > >
>> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what
>> > > > they like
>> > > and
>> > > > hate about it.
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
>> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>.
Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems, how
> often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are always
> getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e push
> notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses IMO. We
>> can just read JIRA to get that.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do we want
>> > to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it open ended was
>> to
>> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
>> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>> > developer survey
>> >
>> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be
>> > a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or
>> > the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we
>> > should do with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things
>> > that we can actually change.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them
>> > > but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up
>> > > with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N
>> > > <pa...@microsoft.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey,
>> > > >
>> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova
>> > > > users and various issues they have with Cordova.
>> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it
>> > > > would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our
>> > > > users better
>> > > when
>> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
>> > > > attempt,
>> > > I
>> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
>> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
>> > > >
>> > > > The survey is available here at
>> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapa
>> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40
>> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f141af9
>> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOCFG68P
>> > > > daI%3d You can use the
>> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
>> > > committer
>> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
>> > > >
>> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they
>> > > > like
>> > > and
>> > > > hate about it.
>> > > >
>> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
>> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>.
I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins area.
What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you problems, how
often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin you are always
getting that you wish should be part of cordova code (i.e push
notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses IMO. We
> can just read JIRA to get that.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do we want
> > to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it open ended was
> to
> > see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> > To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> > developer survey
> >
> > I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be
> > a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or
> > the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we
> > should do with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things
> > that we can actually change.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them
> > > but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up
> > > with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N
> > > <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova
> > > > users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it
> > > > would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our
> > > > users better
> > > when
> > > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> > > > attempt,
> > > I
> > > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > > >
> > > > The survey is available here at
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapa
> > > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40
> > > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f141af9
> > > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOCFG68P
> > > > daI%3d You can use the
> > > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> > > committer
> > > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > > >
> > > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they
> > > > like
> > > and
> > > > hate about it.
> > > >
> > > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
Makes sense - Moved the question to the very end.
@Jesse - about the plugin, what do you want the exact question and its answer options to be ? Should we list all the core plugins ? Is this a good list - https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0/cordova_plugins_pluginapis.md.html ? Is it a lot of options.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:01 PM
To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do we
> want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it open
> ended was to see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just
> be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the
> project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that
> already. What we should do with this survey is try and narrow it down
> to actionable things that we can actually change.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them
> > but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up
> > with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram
> > N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about
> > > Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought
> > > it would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our
> > > users better
> > when
> > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> > > attempt,
> > I
> > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > >
> > > The survey is available here at
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fa
> > > pa
> > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%
> > > 40
> > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f141a
> > > f9
> > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOCFG6
> > > 8P
> > > daI%3d You can use the
> > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> > committer
> > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > >
> > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they
> > > like
> > and
> > > hate about it.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > >
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it to general
feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative responses IMO. We
can just read JIRA to get that.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do we want
> to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it open ended was to
> see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
> To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
> developer survey
>
> I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be
> a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or
> the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we
> should do with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things
> that we can actually change.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them
> > but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up
> > with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N
> > <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova
> > > users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it
> > > would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our
> > > users better
> > when
> > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> > > attempt,
> > I
> > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > > Cordova for creating the apps.
> > >
> > > The survey is available here at
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapa
> > > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40
> > > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f141af9
> > > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOCFG68P
> > > daI%3d You can use the
> > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> > committer
> > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > >
> > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they
> > > like
> > and
> > > hate about it.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > >
> >
>
RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer
survey
Posted by Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>.
@Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it myself. Do we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I kept it open ended was to see what things people really say. What do you want to change it to ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
To: dev <de...@cordova.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be a giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we should do with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually change.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them
> but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up
> with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N
> <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova
> > users and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it
> > would be interesting to try to get some data and understand our
> > users better
> when
> > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> > attempt,
> I
> > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use
> > Cordova for creating the apps.
> >
> > The survey is available here at
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapa
> > checordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40
> > microsoft.com%7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86f141af9
> > 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5ZuOCFG68P
> > daI%3d You can use the
> > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> committer
> > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> >
> > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they
> > like
> and
> > hate about it.
> >
> > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
I would add a : Select all the (core) plugins you have used.
And maybe, a : Is there a plugin you wish existed?
I agree that asking users what they want may lead to 'new coke' [1]
Moving the opened ended question to last and letting users choose whether
to use it to state what they love OR hate may be a better approach.
[1] http://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be a
> giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or the
> committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we should do
> with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things that we can
> actually change.
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them but I
> > would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up with a
> faster
> > horse. ;)
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova
> users
> > > and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it
> would
> > > be interesting to try to get some data and understand our users better
> > when
> > > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first
> attempt,
> > I
> > > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use Cordova
> for
> > > creating the apps.
> > >
> > > The survey is available here at
> > > https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co. You can use the
> > > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> > committer
> > > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> > >
> > > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they like
> > and
> > > hate about it.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> > >
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
I think this is way too open ended. The first question shouldn't just be a
giant area where users get to talk about how they hate the project, or the
committers, or whatever. We get enough of that already. What we should do
with this survey is try and narrow it down to actionable things that we can
actually change.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them but I
> would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up with a faster
> horse. ;)
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova users
> > and various issues they have with Cordova.
> > As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it would
> > be interesting to try to get some data and understand our users better
> when
> > we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first attempt,
> I
> > created a survey that we could send out to developers who use Cordova for
> > creating the apps.
> >
> > The survey is available here at
> > https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co. You can use the
> > apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in
> committer
> > SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
> >
> > The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they like
> and
> > hate about it.
> >
> > What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> > Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
> >
>
Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them but I
would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up with a faster
horse. ;)
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list about Cordova users
> and various issues they have with Cordova.
> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, I thought it would
> be interesting to try to get some data and understand our users better when
> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as a first attempt, I
> created a survey that we could send out to developers who use Cordova for
> creating the apps.
>
> The survey is available here at
> https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co. You can use the
> apachebot@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com> credentials (in committer
> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions directly.
>
> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and what they like and
> hate about it.
>
> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this be useful ?
> Are there more questions we would like to ask our developers ?
>