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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> on 2008/02/01 17:00:58 UTC
Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Hi
The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany dev
list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
The proposal it to use a similar release structure to the one we already use
[2]
tuscany/
native/
java/
das/
sca/
1.1-incubating/
release artifacts here
sdo/
Please advise
Thanks
Simon
[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg26970.html
[2] http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/
Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 1, 2008 4:00 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi
hi simon
> The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
> 1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany dev
> list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
the new distribution policy means that podling now need to do stuff
like mirroring. the reason for the post was that i volunteered to walk
podlings through the process at least until the documentation is
complete.
i'm on tuscany dev. let's move this thread back over there
- robert
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 3, 2008 3:10 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 03/02/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 2008 4:00 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
> > > 1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany dev
> > > list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
> > > www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
> >
> > i volunteered to walk podlings through their first release under the
> > new policy (at least until the documentation is completed)
> >
> > please take a look at
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution
> >
> > are there any questions you have that it doesn't answer...?
> >
>
> Some of the incubator dist directories contain KEYS files, some don't
> - is there a policy on that?
incubator policy is just to follow apache policy
http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html#policy
so ATM a KEYS file is not mandatory but is recommended
- robert
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 03/02/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:00 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
> > 1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany dev
> > list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
> > www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
>
> i volunteered to walk podlings through their first release under the
> new policy (at least until the documentation is completed)
>
> please take a look at
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution
>
> are there any questions you have that it doesn't answer...?
>
Some of the incubator dist directories contain KEYS files, some don't
- is there a policy on that?
> - robert
>
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 4, 2008 3:09 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2008 7:04 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 3, 2008 5:10 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 3, 2008 4:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <
> > robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > > When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts
> > to
> > > > > www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
> > > > > permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > Tuscany web site.
> > > >
> > > > yep (it's not really a go-ahead, more a
> > > > make-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing)
> > > >
> > > > you're planning to use the dynamic script? (rather than a custom
> > > > download script)
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > in that case, the script looks ok to me
> >
> > make sure that the signatures are correct and uploaded at the same
> > time as the release.
> >
> > is your key available from a public key server?
>
>
> Yep, it's here
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=simon+laws&op=vindex
great
look like everything's covered. fine by me to upload whenever you're ready.
- robert
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Feb 3, 2008 7:04 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2008 5:10 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2008 4:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <
> robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > > When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts
> to
> > > > www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
> > > > permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page
> into
> > > the
> > > > Tuscany web site.
> > >
> > > yep (it's not really a go-ahead, more a
> > > make-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing)
> > >
> > > you're planning to use the dynamic script? (rather than a custom
> > > download script)
> >
> >
> > Yes.
>
> in that case, the script looks ok to me
>
> make sure that the signatures are correct and uploaded at the same
> time as the release.
>
> is your key available from a public key server?
Yep, it's here
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=simon+laws&op=vindex
>
>
> - robert
>
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 3, 2008 5:10 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2008 4:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> > > When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts to
> > > www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
> > > permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page into
> > the
> > > Tuscany web site.
> >
> > yep (it's not really a go-ahead, more a
> > make-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing)
> >
> > you're planning to use the dynamic script? (rather than a custom
> > download script)
>
>
> Yes.
in that case, the script looks ok to me
make sure that the signatures are correct and uploaded at the same
time as the release.
is your key available from a public key server?
- robert
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Thanks for the speedy feedback.....
On Feb 3, 2008 4:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > We know how we want our distribution directories structured (see start
> of
> > thread).
>
> great
>
> > There is a draft release page here (
> >
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+1.1-incubating
> ).
> > I'd appreciate it if you could give the URLs a quick once over to see if
> > they are as you would expect re. mirroring.
>
> a few minor, non-normative recommendations
>
> "It can take a day or so for releases to propagate to all mirrors, so
> if you are downloading something near the release date, please be
> patient and retry the links from this page in the event that a
> selected mirror does not yet have the download."
>
> i've found that it works better to hold off the announcement until the
> mirrors have sync'd and i can test for myself that everything has
> worked. (saves embarrasements.) so, i tend to initially put a notice
> saying that the release is not yet available and then remove it once
> i've tested the downloads.
Ok, good idea.
>
>
> "The PGP signatures can be verified using PGP or GPG. First download
> the KEYS as well as the asc signature file for the relevant
> distribution. Make sure you get these files from our main distribution
> directory, rather than from a mirror (the asc and md5 links below take
> you to the main distribution directory). Then verify the signatures
> using, for example"
>
> i've found that users find sums easier than signatures. most users
> will not be strongly connected to the apache web of trust. so they are
> going to need to understand how to interpret the results. if you
> recommend checking signatures, considering copying or linking to some
> of the content on http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html#faq.
>
Ok, I can do that.
>
> > When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts to
> > www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
> > permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page into
> the
> > Tuscany web site.
>
> yep (it's not really a go-ahead, more a
> make-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing)
>
> you're planning to use the dynamic script? (rather than a custom
> download script)
Yes. The release artifacts themselves are linked via
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/1.1-incubating/apache-tuscany-sca-1.1-incubating.zip
Etc.
Maybe a custom scrip when we''ve got used to the new approach. But not
yet:-)
>
> - robert
>
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> We know how we want our distribution directories structured (see start of
> thread).
great
> There is a draft release page here (
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+1.1-incubating).
> I'd appreciate it if you could give the URLs a quick once over to see if
> they are as you would expect re. mirroring.
a few minor, non-normative recommendations
"It can take a day or so for releases to propagate to all mirrors, so
if you are downloading something near the release date, please be
patient and retry the links from this page in the event that a
selected mirror does not yet have the download."
i've found that it works better to hold off the announcement until the
mirrors have sync'd and i can test for myself that everything has
worked. (saves embarrasements.) so, i tend to initially put a notice
saying that the release is not yet available and then remove it once
i've tested the downloads.
"The PGP signatures can be verified using PGP or GPG. First download
the KEYS as well as the asc signature file for the relevant
distribution. Make sure you get these files from our main distribution
directory, rather than from a mirror (the asc and md5 links below take
you to the main distribution directory). Then verify the signatures
using, for example"
i've found that users find sums easier than signatures. most users
will not be strongly connected to the apache web of trust. so they are
going to need to understand how to interpret the results. if you
recommend checking signatures, considering copying or linking to some
of the content on http://www.apache.org/dev/release-signing.html#faq.
> When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts to
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
> permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page into the
> Tuscany web site.
yep (it's not really a go-ahead, more a make-sure-you-know-what-you're-doing)
you're planning to use the dynamic script? (rather than a custom
download script)
- robert
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Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
On Feb 3, 2008 12:31 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <
robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:00 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
> > 1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany
> dev
> > list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
> > www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
>
> i volunteered to walk podlings through their first release under the
> new policy (at least until the documentation is completed)
>
> please take a look at
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution
>
> are there any questions you have that it doesn't answer...?
>
> - robert
>
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> Hi Robert
The document looks good to me. I don't have specific questions outstanding.
We know how we want our distribution directories structured (see start of
thread).
There is a draft release page here (
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/SCA+Java+1.1-incubating).
I'd appreciate it if you could give the URLs a quick once over to see if
they are as you would expect re. mirroring.
When we get the go ahead it's left from me to upload the artifacts to
www.apache.org/dist/incubator/tuscany/, set the correct group and
permissions as documented and then integrate the new release page into the
Tuscany web site.
Thanks for helping us through this.
Simon
Re: Tuscany Java SCA Release 1.1-incubating and new Incubator distribution policy
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 1, 2008 4:00 PM, Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> The Tuscany project is now ready to distribute its Java SCA Release
> 1.1-incubating. Following up from Robert's recent post to the Tuscany dev
> list [1] I am posting here before proceeding to copy the artifacts up to
> www.apache.org/dist/incubator.
i volunteered to walk podlings through their first release under the
new policy (at least until the documentation is completed)
please take a look at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#release-distribution
are there any questions you have that it doesn't answer...?
- robert
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