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[jira] [Comment Edited] (HDFS-13522) RBF: Support observer node from Router-Based Federation

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zhengchenyu edited comment on HDFS-13522 at 8/1/22 11:24 AM:
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[~xuzq_zander] 

Hi, the use case about design A is very rare indeed. But Design A also have advantage.
(1) More flexible
Client could set their msync period time by itself.
Example: In our cluster, one name service, some special user detect hdfs file is created periodically, may need high time precision, means more frequent msync.(Though I am oppose to this way).

(2) Save msync
I think there is no need to call msync periodically for most HIVE, MR application. Design A will save more msync than Design B。

I agree [~xuzq_zander] 's suggestion that focus on Design B first, add Design A as a bonus item. It is no easy to review both Design A and Design B.

Could we only complete Design B in this issue?


was (Author: zhengchenyu):
[~xuzq_zander] 

Hi, the use case about design A is very rare indeed. But Design A also have advantage.
(1) More flexible
Client could set their msync period time by itself.
Example: In our cluster, one name service, some special user detect hdfs file is created periodically, may need high time precision, means more frequent msync.(Though I am oppose to this way).

(2) Save msync
I think there is no need to call msync periodically for most HIVE, MR application. Design A will save more msync than Design B。

I agree your suggestion that focus on Design B first, add Design A as a bonus item. It is no easy to review both Design A and Design B.

> RBF: Support observer node from Router-Based Federation
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HDFS-13522
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HDFS-13522
>             Project: Hadoop HDFS
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: federation, namenode
>            Reporter: Erik Krogen
>            Assignee: Simbarashe Dzinamarira
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: pull-request-available
>         Attachments: HDFS-13522.001.patch, HDFS-13522.002.patch, HDFS-13522_WIP.patch, HDFS-13522_proposal_zhengchenyu_v1.pdf, RBF_ Observer support.pdf, Router+Observer RPC clogging.png, ShortTerm-Routers+Observer.png, observer_reads_in_rbf_proposal_simbadzina_v1.pdf, observer_reads_in_rbf_proposal_simbadzina_v2.pdf
>
>          Time Spent: 20h 50m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Changes will need to occur to the router to support the new observer node.
> One such change will be to make the router understand the observer state, e.g. {{FederationNamenodeServiceState}}.



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