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Posted to user@roller.apache.org by Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> on 2010/09/20 06:58:07 UTC
Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Hi,
I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java developer,
and I always like to support open-source projects - especially Apache
ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration interface and
documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal, and so I downloaded
those from http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state comments
are closed when they are not).
Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have an
attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I don't
really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair for visual
design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
Thanks & regards,
Chris.
> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>
> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
> the config file for each.
>
> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
> use it on my blog.
>
> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>> supports
>> multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I would like to
>> know whether I need to install Roller anew for each domain.
>>
>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>
>> http://www.domain1.com
>> http://www.domain2.com
>> http://www.domain3.com
>>
>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>
>> http://blog.domain1.com
>> http://blog.domain2.com
>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>
>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or do I
>> need to install Roller for each domain?
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by æon <ae...@gmail.com>.
Here is one I did a long time ago, I done it for v4.01 but I'm not sure:
http://www.transitorio.cl/weblog/resource/lanegation.rar
I never finish it at all and I remember it doesn't work good enough in IE6.
I was trying to do a very, very minimal theme.
If you know "Velocity" (Roller template coding language) you can fix it I guess.
I hope it helps.
:D
Enrique Fuenzalida M.
http://www.individual.cl/
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
<Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java developer,
> and I always like to support open-source projects - especially Apache
> ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration interface and
> documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal, and so I downloaded
> those from http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state comments
> are closed when they are not).
>
> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have an
> attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I don't
> really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair for visual
> design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Chris.
>
>
>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>
>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>> the config file for each.
>>
>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>> use it on my blog.
>>
>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>> supports
>>> multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I would like to
>>> know whether I need to install Roller anew for each domain.
>>>
>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>
>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or do I
>>> need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Matthew Hixson <mh...@gmail.com>.
Has anyone written a tool that could transmogrify a Wordpress theme into a Roller theme? Seems like something worthwhile.
-M@
On Sep 23, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Nelson Chamberlain wrote:
> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
>
> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>
> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>
> Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
> To: user@roller.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>
> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes. RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> - Dave
>
> Template authors guide:
> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/roller-template-guide.pdf
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>> and so I downloaded those from http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>
>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>
>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>> the config file for each.
>>>
>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>> use it on my blog.
>>>
>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz>.
Cool, I look forward to seeing it. When do you expect Roller 5 to be
released?
Chris.
> Thanks Matt. As you suggested once, that YUI based theme 'fauxcoly' is
> included in Roller 5.
>
> - Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Matt Raible <ma...@raibledesigns.com>
> wrote:
>> Just my 2 cents:
>>
>> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is
>> a nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain
>> <nc...@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris
>>>
>>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining
>>> what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is
>>> Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly,
>>> it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to
>>> Roller.
>>>
>>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I
>>> would say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet,
>>> understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side.
>>> To many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or,
>>> like you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>>
>>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only
>>> heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and
>>> NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing
>>> programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>>
>>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few
>>> recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement
>>> the simple & elegant appearance?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Dodunski
>>> [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> Hi Nelson,
>>>
>>> Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
>>> elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have
>>> clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end
>>> result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor
>>> elegant.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet
>>> elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>>
>>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful.
>>> But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard.
>>> What can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great
>>> wordpress theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist
>>> perhaps?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chris Dodunski.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or
>>>> modifiability?
>>>>
>>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>>
>>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>>
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>>
>>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
>>>> themes.
>>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps...
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> Template authors guide:
>>>>
>>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Dave <sn...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Matt. As you suggested once, that YUI based theme 'fauxcoly' is
included in Roller 5.
- Dave
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Matt Raible <ma...@raibledesigns.com> wrote:
> Just my 2 cents:
>
> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is a nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain <nc...@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly, it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to Roller.
>>
>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet, understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>
>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>
>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement the simple & elegant appearance?
>>
>> Nelson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>
>> Hi Nelson,
>>
>> Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor elegant.
>>
>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>
>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful. But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris Dodunski.
>>
>>
>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
>>>
>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>
>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes.
>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps...
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> Template authors guide:
>>>
>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>
>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Matt Raible <ma...@raibledesigns.com>.
My bad, .org not .com:
http://rollerweblogger.org/roller/
On Sep 24, 2010, at 5:09 PM, "Christopher Dodunski" <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
> I just see a placeholder at that URL. Correct domain?
>
>
>> Just my 2 cents:
>>
>> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is a
>> nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain
>> <nc...@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris
>>>
>>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining
>>> what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is
>>> Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly,
>>> it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to
>>> Roller.
>>>
>>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would
>>> say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet,
>>> understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To
>>> many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like
>>> you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>>
>>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only
>>> heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and
>>> NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing
>>> programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>>
>>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few
>>> recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement
>>> the simple & elegant appearance?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> Hi Nelson,
>>>
>>> Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
>>> elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have
>>> clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end
>>> result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor
>>> elegant.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet
>>> elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>>
>>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful.
>>> But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What
>>> can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress
>>> theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chris Dodunski.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or
>>>> modifiability?
>>>>
>>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>>
>>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>>
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>>
>>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
>>>> themes.
>>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps...
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> Template authors guide:
>>>>
>>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz>.
I just see a placeholder at that URL. Correct domain?
> Just my 2 cents:
>
> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is a
> nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain
> <nc...@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining
>> what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is
>> Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly,
>> it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to
>> Roller.
>>
>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would
>> say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet,
>> understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To
>> many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like
>> you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>
>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only
>> heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and
>> NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing
>> programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>
>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few
>> recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement
>> the simple & elegant appearance?
>>
>> Nelson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>
>> Hi Nelson,
>>
>> Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
>> elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have
>> clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end
>> result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor
>> elegant.
>>
>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet
>> elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>
>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful.
>> But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What
>> can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress
>> theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris Dodunski.
>>
>>
>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or
>>> modifiability?
>>>
>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>
>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
>>> themes.
>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps...
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> Template authors guide:
>>>
>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>
>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Matt Raible <ma...@raibledesigns.com>.
Just my 2 cents:
I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is a nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain <nc...@ceradyne.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris
>
> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly, it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to Roller.
>
> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet, understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>
> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>
> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement the simple & elegant appearance?
>
> Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
> To: user@roller.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>
> Hi Nelson,
>
> Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor elegant.
>
> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>
> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful. But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Dodunski.
>
>
>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
>>
>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>
>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>
>> Nelson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>
>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes.
>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>
>> Hope that helps...
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> Template authors guide:
>>
>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>
>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>
>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>
>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>
>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>> domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Nelson Chamberlain <nc...@ceradyne.com>.
Hi Chris
I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly, it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to Roller.
If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet, understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement the simple & elegant appearance?
Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
To: user@roller.apache.org
Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Hi Nelson,
Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor elegant.
Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful. But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What can we do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
Regards,
Chris Dodunski.
> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
>
> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>
> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>
> Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
> To: user@roller.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>
> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes.
> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> - Dave
>
> Template authors guide:
>
> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
> oller-template-guide.pdf
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>> and so I downloaded those from
>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>
>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>
>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>> the config file for each.
>>>
>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>> use it on my blog.
>>>
>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz>.
Hi Nelson,
Good question! I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface. Many webpages have
clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end result
is as busy as the front page of a newspaper. Neither simple nor elegant.
Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet elegant
user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful. But,
in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard. What can we
do to help fix this situation. Decide on a great wordpress theme, and
replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
Regards,
Chris Dodunski.
> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it strictly
> the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered the page
> templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
>
> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive if
> the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>
> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>
> Nelson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
> To: user@roller.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>
> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes.
> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> - Dave
>
> Template authors guide:
> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/roller-template-guide.pdf
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
>> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>> and so I downloaded those from
>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>
>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>
>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>> the config file for each.
>>>
>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>> use it on my blog.
>>>
>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>> domain.
>>>>
>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>
>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Nelson Chamberlain <nc...@ceradyne.com>.
I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or modifiability?
My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
Nelson
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
To: user@roller.apache.org
Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good themes. RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
Hope that helps...
- Dave
Template authors guide:
ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/roller-template-guide.pdf
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
> especially Apache ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration
> interface and documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
> and so I downloaded those from http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
> comments are closed when they are not).
>
> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have
> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I
> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
> for visual design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Chris.
>
>
>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>
>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>> the config file for each.
>>
>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>> use it on my blog.
>>
>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>> supports multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I
>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>> domain.
>>>
>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>
>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or
>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Posted by Dave <sn...@gmail.com>.
That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
themes. RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but
now it is gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn
and its not that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other
places.
Hope that helps...
- Dave
Template authors guide:
ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/roller-template-guide.pdf
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
<Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java developer,
> and I always like to support open-source projects - especially Apache
> ones. So far I'm impressed with the administration interface and
> documentation. But the packaged themes didn't appeal, and so I downloaded
> those from http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state comments
> are closed when they are not).
>
> Is there another source of Roller themes out there? Does anyone have an
> attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share? I don't
> really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair for visual
> design). Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Chris.
>
>
>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>
>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>> the config file for each.
>>
>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>> use it on my blog.
>>
>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>> http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>> <Ch...@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server. I read that Roller
>>> supports
>>> multiple blogs. My web server hosts several domains. I would like to
>>> know whether I need to install Roller anew for each domain.
>>>
>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>
>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>
>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>
>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller? Or do I
>>> need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>