RE: Cocoon - WAP - Nokia 7110; WebClipping-savvy editor?

[Ed Staub <es...@silknet.com>]

You can get "No response received" on the emulator from a badly formed WML
file.  WML schema has some surprising quirks.  For example, a <table> at the
top level (without a surrounding <p>) is a no-no, and the columns attribute
on <table> is mandatory.

I discovered this by using an XML editor with a validator.  I like XMLSpy
(http://www.xmlspy.com), which already knows WML as a filetype.  But I
haven't done a thorough review of other offerings.

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In a related matter... does anyone know of a validating editor for PalmOS's
WebClipping format?

-Ed Staub
Kana Communications, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Paddy [mailto:terry@rostersetc.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 7:47 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; morten@caput.com
Subject: RE: Cocoon - WAP - Nokia 7110


Hi Morten, thanks for your info.

>>Are you sure the phone's properly configured?
I don't have a phone, and so the 'test' was being done on a Vodafone
manager's personal 7110, I can only assume that it was configured correctly
:-)

>>Oh yeah, http://www.yospace.com/ - the best emulators I've come across.
Interesting! I checked out the site and tried to access my .xml cocoon file
via the emulator, no luck "No response received" is the message, but my web
server logs indicate the request arrived and was correctly answered?? I
think I have a bigger problem than I thought. And just to clarify, I can
still access my wml created by cocoon from the Nokia Toolkit.

>>Try requesting a WAP page in your browser by appending user-Agent="Nokia"
as an extra parameter in the URL. Save the output and feed it to the
toolkit.

I'm trying that now.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated, as are the ones you have already
made.

Thanks ... Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: Morten Primdahl [mailto:morten@caput.com]
Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2000 21:13
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org; terry@rostersetc.com
Subject: Re: Cocoon - WAP - Nokia 7110



Hi

> Hello, a quick question for cocoon/WAP developers.
>
> Have you been able to send cocoon created WAP to the actual 7110 phone via
> the NOKIA gateway? I have cocoon producing WAP on my development network,
> and via the Internet, to the Nokia WAP toolkit (1.3 Beta). The phone
> emulation is the Nokia 7110, and the gateway I use is WAPlite on my local
> machine. I then got hold of a real 7110 phone and it wont work.

Are you sure the phone's properly configured? The toolkit is
rather strict, and shouldn't let any bugs through. Try requesting
a WAP page in your browser by appending user-Agent="Nokia" as an
extra parameter in the URL. Save the output and feed it to
the toolkit.

I too experienced some problems with the gateways, but I just think
they're unstable in general ;) Oh yeah, http://www.yospace.com/ -
the best emulators I've come across. Good for screen shots, good for
faster testing.

Morten

>
> My Telecom company (Vodafone New Zealand) tell me they use the Nokia
gateway
> on their network. The cocoon generated WML is arriving at the gateway, but
> not being accepted. I recall some posts (months ago) regarding a problem
> with the line
>
> <!DOCTYPE wml PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.1//EN"
> "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml_1.1.xml">
>
> being broken (LF/CR) at ... "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml_1.1.xml">
>
> I am interested to know if this is an actual issue (or just a possibility)
> and if others have working cocoon WAP -> Nokia 7110 phones. It appears
this
> is an issue with the 7110 phone and Nokia gateway.
>
> Regards ... Terry
>
> Terry Paddy
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