I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com>]

I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
"upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it crashes,
I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
recovery function is an absolute joke.

I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even
if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.

Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become.

Bob Lee
Merrimack, NH

Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>]

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org> wrote:
> My simplest recomendation is to keep a stable and a 'bleeding edge'
> version. That way you can use a stable for really long, complex
> documents and a bleeding edge for simpler documents.
>

This is reasonable advice in general.  This might make sense if a user
was reporting a known issue, like slow saving of Excel files in AOO
4.0.0.  But when they are reporting truly bizarre and severe issues
that no one else is reporting, then they would probably benefit from
some troubleshooting on the forums.   For example, a clear reinstall
might be a good first step.

-Rob


> I did something like that for my browsers as well as having different
> flavors. Event today I keep Caligra, AbiWord and AOO Writer for
> handling my documents.
>
> The freedom of free software allows you to expand the offering.
> Currently I look at abiword and gnumerics and they have evolved from
> the last time I used them. Also OpenOffice.org 3.2 which was rock
> solid was a very good alternative still available.
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html
>
> If you think about it, Microsoft has a 3 years cycle for MSO, so in
> theory you will be doing the same waiting on MSO 2015/6.
>
> OpenOffice.org has a 6/8 month cycle and major releases.
>
> Saying all that, I would also invite you to participate on our QA
> efforts generating good bug reports so we can isolate these bugs, more
> information at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html
>
> On 10/5/13, Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
>> "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
>> randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it crashes,
>> I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
>> recovery function is an absolute joke.
>>
>> I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
>> functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
>> thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even
>> if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.
>>
>> Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become.
>>
>> Bob Lee
>> Merrimack, NH
>>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://www.openoffice.org
>
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Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>]

My simplest recomendation is to keep a stable and a 'bleeding edge'
version. That way you can use a stable for really long, complex
documents and a bleeding edge for simpler documents.

I did something like that for my browsers as well as having different
flavors. Event today I keep Caligra, AbiWord and AOO Writer for
handling my documents.

The freedom of free software allows you to expand the offering.
Currently I look at abiword and gnumerics and they have evolved from
the last time I used them. Also OpenOffice.org 3.2 which was rock
solid was a very good alternative still available.

http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html

If you think about it, Microsoft has a 3 years cycle for MSO, so in
theory you will be doing the same waiting on MSO 2015/6.

OpenOffice.org has a 6/8 month cycle and major releases.

Saying all that, I would also invite you to participate on our QA
efforts generating good bug reports so we can isolate these bugs, more
information at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html

On 10/5/13, Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
> "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
> randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it crashes,
> I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
> recovery function is an absolute joke.
>
> I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
> functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
> thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even
> if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.
>
> Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become.
>
> Bob Lee
> Merrimack, NH
>


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http://www.openoffice.org

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Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com>]

...and of course keep a backup history. Save regularly under different
version names so that if something goes wrong you can find out where and
revert to a version that is not too far from the current version. This is
really a sensible strategy whatever software you are using if the work is
critically important. Ok, it takes up some more disc space but in these
days of 100s of gigs that shouldn't really be an issue for office docs.


On 5 October 2013 15:56, Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
> "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
> randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it crashes,
> I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
> recovery function is an absolute joke.
>
> I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
> functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
> thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even
> if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.
>
> Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become.
>
> Bob Lee
> Merrimack, NH
>



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Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Ian Lynch <ia...@gmail.com>]

Don't think he is subscribed to the list so he won't see your message.


On 5 October 2013 23:29, Vladislav Stevanovic <stevanovicvladislav@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hello Bob,
>
> I am just another user of Oo like you. Your letter shows me that you really
> love Oo but, problems push you in that way that your are now disappointed.
> And I had some bad experiences in my one business with Oo in the past, but
> I learned one rule: If there is some bug and makes me problems, I just
> install previous version. I now how that is frustrating to using an old
> version of Oo! But, we both now that this is open source, there is no
> enough developers, and bug fixes are not so fast as we want. Maybe for you
> is solution to switch on other office package, but here is also an
> alternative for you: go to Bugzilla, reported your problem, and see what
> will be happens. I reported several bugs, and in reasonably period they are
> fixed. So, if you want to help us and yourself, please feel you freely to
> report issue, attached your example and describe in detail what is the
> problem. That bug we cannot solve without you.
>
> Best regards,
> Wlada ( also one of users who really want to see  Oo  as much better,
> faster, without bugs office software)
>
>
> 2013/10/5 Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com>
>
> > I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
> > "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
> > randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it
> crashes,
> > I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
> > recovery function is an absolute joke.
> >
> > I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
> > functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
> > thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use,
> even
> > if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.
> >
> > Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has
> become.
> >
> > Bob Lee
> > Merrimack, NH
> >
>



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Re: I'm ready to give up on Open Office

[Vladislav Stevanovic <st...@gmail.com>]

Hello Bob,

I am just another user of Oo like you. Your letter shows me that you really
love Oo but, problems push you in that way that your are now disappointed.
And I had some bad experiences in my one business with Oo in the past, but
I learned one rule: If there is some bug and makes me problems, I just
install previous version. I now how that is frustrating to using an old
version of Oo! But, we both now that this is open source, there is no
enough developers, and bug fixes are not so fast as we want. Maybe for you
is solution to switch on other office package, but here is also an
alternative for you: go to Bugzilla, reported your problem, and see what
will be happens. I reported several bugs, and in reasonably period they are
fixed. So, if you want to help us and yourself, please feel you freely to
report issue, attached your example and describe in detail what is the
problem. That bug we cannot solve without you.

Best regards,
Wlada ( also one of users who really want to see  Oo  as much better,
faster, without bugs office software)


2013/10/5 Bob Lee <le...@gmail.com>

> I've been using Open Office for my personal use for years.  Ever since
> "upgrading" to 4.0, I've been having more problems with the program
> randomly crashing than all of the years before.  And each time it crashes,
> I have to rebuild half the data and all of the formatting because the
> recovery function is an absolute joke.
>
> I've tried using Libre Office, but I don't like how they handled certain
> functions.  I've just upgraded to OO 4.01, but the next time this damn
> thing crashed I'm uninstalling it and I'll find something else to use, even
> if that means having to shell out money for MSOffice.
>
> Its just so sad to see what this once great open source product has become.
>
> Bob Lee
> Merrimack, NH
>