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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> on 2004/04/12 17:22:42 UTC
[VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
after 1.2 ships, i expect quite some restructuring inside the
cocoon-lenya module. this is very painful with CVS. not to mention that
you cannot version directories..
with subversion 1.0 out, other victims^d^d^d^d^d^dprojects having made
the switch already and tool support for eclipse available, the time is
now here for the change.
btw, there are also svn clients available for windows (tortoisesvn.org),
mac os x (http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/search.php?s=svn)
i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
here is my +1
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
> > Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> >
> >> Hmmm, I would prefer a distributed repository scm similar to
> >> bitkeeper. I'm using monotone (http://www.venge.net/monotone/) now
> >> to track lenya and my specific branches.
>
> i don't know enough about svn yet to determine if it somehow can
> be made to support scenarios such as in
> http://xaraya.com/~marcel/bkusecases/usecases.html svn isn't
> distributed from what i understand, which takes the fun out of
> scenarios.
There is a subproject that bolts on distributed repositories to svn.
I don't know how capable it is.
> i picked bk for the xaraya project 2 years ago, and it has been a big
> success. i'm curious if we can get some of these benefits with svn too.
I'm very please with monotone as well. Things that are difficult or
impossible with cvs are trivial now. The distributed repository
is a perfect match for open source projects.
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, I would prefer a distributed repository scm similar to
>> bitkeeper. I'm using monotone (http://www.venge.net/monotone/) now
>> to track lenya and my specific branches.
i don't know enough about svn yet to determine if it somehow can be made
to support scenarios such as in
http://xaraya.com/~marcel/bkusecases/usecases.html
svn isn't distributed from what i understand, which takes the fun out of
scenarios.
i picked bk for the xaraya project 2 years ago, and it has been a big
success. i'm curious if we can get some of these benefits with svn too.
-gregor
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
> Hmmm, I would prefer a distributed repository scm similar to
> bitkeeper. I'm using monotone (http://www.venge.net/monotone/) now
> to track lenya and my specific branches.
bitkeeper and others are not an option at the ASF. its either CVS or SVN
at the moment. from what i understand though, you can do extensive
aliasing to achieve many of the benefits of distributed repositories.
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook/ch07s03.html
for instance, we could define an alias for bxe and kupu (and other
non-ASF projects) to include them in one easy checkout yet still follow
ASF legal policy.
-gregor
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Jean Pierre LeJacq <jp...@quoininc.com>.
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Rolf Kulemann wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 17:22, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> > i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
>
> +1
Hmmm, I would prefer a distributed repository scm similar to
bitkeeper. I'm using monotone (http://www.venge.net/monotone/) now
to track lenya and my specific branches.
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 17:22, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
+1
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
Hoping you guys will pave the road for Cocoon's own switch, here's my +1.
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[SUMMARY] [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
[...]
> i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
Positive votes: 5 (Gregor, Roku, Gianugo, Michi, Andreas)
Negative votes: 1 (Christian)
This means we decided to switch to SVN.
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Andreas Kuckartz <A....@ping.de>.
> Jan just confirmed that subclipse does not (yet) work on Linux,
> i.e. as a Linux user you will presently not be able to use Eclipse
> with subversion (without going to the cmd line behind Eclipses
> back). This is a blocker IMHO.
>From the subclipse FAQ:
"Why does Subclipse only support Windows?
A linux version is planned."
http://subclipse.tigris.org/
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Christian Egli <ch...@wyona.net>.
"Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> writes:
> Christian Egli wrote:
>
> > I have my doubts about the readyness of the tool chain. And no, I'm
> > not willing to resort back to the command line on Linux.
> > * for subclipse there are contradicting rumours flying
> > around. Haven't had time to confirm that this really works on
> > Linux. I belive it when I see it.
> >
> > So until these issues are clarified I'm
>
> in other words you'll clarify them?
Hehe, clever.
Jan just confirmed that subclipse does not (yet) work on Linux,
i.e. as a Linux user you will presently not be able to use Eclipse
with subversion (without going to the cmd line behind Eclipses
back). This is a blocker IMHO.
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Christian Egli wrote:
> I have my doubts about the readyness of the tool chain. And no, I'm
> not willing to resort back to the command line on Linux.
>
> * for subclipse there are contradicting rumours flying around. Haven't
> had time to confirm that this really works on Linux. I belive it
> when I see it.
>
> * there is psvn.el for emacs. Don't know if it is as tighly integrated
> into Emacs as pcl-cvs.
>
> So until these issues are clarified I'm
in other words you'll clarify them?
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Christian Egli <ch...@wyona.net>.
"Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> writes:
> after 1.2 ships, i expect quite some restructuring inside the
> cocoon-lenya module. this is very painful with CVS. not to mention
> that you cannot version directories..
It is doable, if you know what you are doing.
> with subversion 1.0 out, other victims^d^d^d^d^d^dprojects having made
> the switch already and tool support for eclipse available, the time is
> now here for the change.
I have my doubts about the readyness of the tool chain. And no, I'm
not willing to resort back to the command line on Linux.
* for subclipse there are contradicting rumours flying around. Haven't
had time to confirm that this really works on Linux. I belive it
when I see it.
* there is psvn.el for emacs. Don't know if it is as tighly integrated
into Emacs as pcl-cvs.
So until these issues are clarified I'm
-1
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
>
> here is my +1
+1
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> +1 (relying on your promise regarding Eclipse support ...)
http://subclipse.tigris.org/
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> i propose to switch to subversion after we tag lenya 1.2 final.
>
> here is my +1
+1 (relying on your promise regarding Eclipse support ...)
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Re: [VOTE] move cocoon-lenya to subversion
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> after 1.2 ships, i expect quite some restructuring inside the
> cocoon-lenya module. this is very painful with CVS. not to mention that
> you cannot version directories..
forgot 2 things
<gregor> i just realized that it is easier for people behind a firewall
<gregor> because they can sync over http
<roku> Exactly
<roku> And it can be easily accessed via WebDAV from inside cocoon/lenya
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