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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com> on 2012/05/21 16:30:06 UTC
[HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Hi,
On 21.05.2012 15:29, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 21.05.2012 13:55, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>>>> <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple update
>>>>> service for AOO 3.4.
>>>>>
>>>>> The update URL for AOO 3.4 is:
>>>>> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>> (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=<pkgformat> for non-Windows platforms)
>>>>>
>>>>> As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following
>>>>> response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4:
>>>>> Status: Checking for an update failed.
>>>>> Description: General Internet error has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET request to the
>>>>> above given URL is made:
>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>> <inst:description
>>>>> xmlns:inst="http://installation.openoffice.org/description">
>>>>> </inst:description>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kay already made such an XML document available at:
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to return to
>>>>> the user that the version is up to date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a redirection is
>>>>> needed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the
>>>> requests so it loads that static file?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, as a short-term and fast solution.
>>>
>>>> I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll
>>>> need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable
>>>> the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available
>>>> for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with
>>>> redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e.,
>>>> a cgi script?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Static files would be possible, because each version has its own update service
>>> URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term.
>>> Thus, some server-based logic would make sense.
>>>
>>>> If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes
>>>> sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today
>>>> just always points to the "no update available" XML for AOO 3.4. But
>>>> then we make it more complicated as we go.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service for OOo 3.3
>>> installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic would look
>>> like.
>>>
>>>>> Can somebody make this happen?
>>>>> I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a
>>>> JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need
>>>> someone to develop that script first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static approach and would
>>> ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already existing static
>>> file can be established.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, let us drive this issue a little bit more.
>>
>> For the static and short-term update service for AOO 3.4 I will do the following:
>> - Creation of HTTP resource [1] provided the above given simple XML document
>
> Done.
>
>> - Asking ASF Infrastructure via corresponding JIRA issue to redirect HTTP GET
>> requests for URL [2] (Update URL of AOO 3.4) to URL [2]
>
> Done - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4830
>
The infrastructure team was reacting very fast.
The redirect is established.
Thus, please check in your AOO 3.4 installation, if the update functionality
returns that your installation is up to date.
Thanks in advance, Oliver
>>
>> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>> [2] http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
AOO340m1(Build:9590) - Rev. 1327774
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Which is Win7 SP1
- Shane
On 2012-05-21 10:43 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi
>
> On 21.05.2012 16:35, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>> "OpenOffice.org 3.4 is up to date." Yay! Fast work indeed #asfinfra folk!
>>
>> Although we should update the product name there for the next build, eh?
>>
>
> Thanks for the test.
>
> Yes, infrastructure is very kind.
>
> One little question: On which operating system do you have your AOO 3.4
> instance running.
>
> Yes, I have already seen the "old" strings.
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi
On 21.05.2012 16:35, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> "OpenOffice.org 3.4 is up to date." Yay! Fast work indeed #asfinfra folk!
>
> Although we should update the product name there for the next build, eh?
>
Thanks for the test.
Yes, infrastructure is very kind.
One little question: On which operating system do you have your AOO 3.4 instance
running.
Yes, I have already seen the "old" strings.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
"OpenOffice.org 3.4 is up to date." Yay! Fast work indeed #asfinfra folk!
Although we should update the product name there for the next build, eh?
- Shane
On 2012-05-21 10:30 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 21.05.2012 15:29, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 21.05.2012 13:55, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>>>>> <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> service for AOO 3.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The update URL for AOO 3.4 is:
>>>>>> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=<pkgformat> for non-Windows platforms)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the
>>>>>> following
>>>>>> response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4:
>>>>>> Status: Checking for an update failed.
>>>>>> Description: General Internet error has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET
>>>>>> request to the
>>>>>> above given URL is made:
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>> <inst:description
>>>>>> xmlns:inst="http://installation.openoffice.org/description">
>>>>>> </inst:description>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kay already made such an XML document available at:
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to
>>>>>> return to
>>>>>> the user that the version is up to date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a
>>>>>> redirection is
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the
>>>>> requests so it loads that static file?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, as a short-term and fast solution.
>>>>
>>>>> I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll
>>>>> need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable
>>>>> the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available
>>>>> for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with
>>>>> redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e.,
>>>>> a cgi script?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Static files would be possible, because each version has its own
>>>> update service
>>>> URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term.
>>>> Thus, some server-based logic would make sense.
>>>>
>>>>> If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes
>>>>> sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today
>>>>> just always points to the "no update available" XML for AOO 3.4. But
>>>>> then we make it more complicated as we go.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service
>>>> for OOo 3.3
>>>> installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic
>>>> would look
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>>>> Can somebody make this happen?
>>>>>> I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a
>>>>> JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need
>>>>> someone to develop that script first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static
>>>> approach and would
>>>> ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already
>>>> existing static
>>>> file can be established.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, let us drive this issue a little bit more.
>>>
>>> For the static and short-term update service for AOO 3.4 I will do
>>> the following:
>>> - Creation of HTTP resource [1] provided the above given simple XML
>>> document
>>
>> Done.
>>
>>> - Asking ASF Infrastructure via corresponding JIRA issue to redirect
>>> HTTP GET
>>> requests for URL [2] (Update URL of AOO 3.4) to URL [2]
>>
>> Done - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4830
>>
>
> The infrastructure team was reacting very fast.
> The redirect is established.
>
> Thus, please check in your AOO 3.4 installation, if the update
> functionality returns that your installation is up to date.
>
> Thanks in advance, Oliver
>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>
>>>
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 22.05.2012 10:28, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
>> Does the update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect?
>> I am asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>
> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to moderate
> lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle to Apache) had
> been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed my redirect,
> everything worked as expected and I received a message saying that no updates
> were available.
>
Thanks for the feedback.
Thus, I think there is no need to follow-up this the infrastructure team.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Posted by Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>.
2012/5/22 Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>
>
>
> 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 22.05.2012 10:35, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:28:15 +0200 Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>>>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right? Does
>>>>> the
>>>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I am
>>>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>>>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change
>>>> (Oracle to
>>>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed
>>>> my
>>>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message saying
>>>> that no updates were available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3
>>> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the test.
>>
>> The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be established,
>> yet.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>
> Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
> but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check the
> "Enable password" option.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Paulo de Souza Lima
> http://almalivre.wordpress.com
> Curitiba - PR
> Linux User #432358
> Ubuntu User #28729
>
>
>
Sorry. The option is actually "Remember password".
--
Paulo de Souza Lima
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Posted by Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>.
2012/5/22 Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>
> Am Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 um 15:53 schrieb Paulo de Souza Lima:
> > 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22.05.2012 14:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 22.05.2012 14:47, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<orwittmann@**googlemail.com<
> orwittmann@googlemail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality,
> because
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host.
> Right?
> > > > > > > > > Does
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > update functionality works, if you do not have your own
> redirect? I
> > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine
> just to
> > > > > > > > moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS
> change
> > > > > > > > (Oracle
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course.
> When I
> > > > > > > > removed
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a
> message
> > > > > > > > saying
> > > > > > > > that no updates were available.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with
> an OOo
> > > > > > > 3.3
> > > > > > > machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the test.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be
> > > > > > established,
> > > > > > yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards, Oliver.
> > > > > Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It
> works,
> > > > > but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I
> check
> > > > > the
> > > > > "Enable password" option.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hm..
> > > > As far as I know only one HTTP GET request is performed internally
> by AOO
> > > > 3.4.
> > > > May be due to the redirects more requests are made - I'll have to
> check
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have checked it.
> > > Due to the redirect three HTTP GET request are performed.
> > > The first goes to http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**
> > > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
> >,
> > > the second to http://openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> > > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>and
> the final one to
> > > http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> > > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<
> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
> >
> > > The same URLs that Andrea already figured out.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think the "Remember password" option is part of your proxy software.
> > > > Thus, I
> > > > do not think that its functionality is related to AOO 3.4.
> > > >
> > >
> > > May be each HTTP GET request needs to be authenticated in your proxy
> > > software.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Oliver.
> >
> > Suggestion: maybe including fields for proxy user and password in Tools >
> > Option > Internet > Proxy. An option for socks proxy shoud be usefull
> also.
> >
> >
>
> I think it is already possible to configure a proxy. And in case no proxy
> is configured in the office the system proxy is used as far as I know.
> Maybe we have a minor problem here with the new WebDAV/http implementation.
>
> But in general a proxy can be configured.
>
>
Yes, thanks. I've tested using manual proxy options and it worked without
continuous password requests.
> Juergen
>
Regards
> >
> > --
> > Paulo de Souza Lima
> > http://almalivre.wordpress.com
> > Curitiba - PR
> > Linux User #432358
> > Ubuntu User #28729
> >
> >
>
>
>
--
Paulo de Souza Lima
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4
update service
Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Am Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 um 15:53 schrieb Paulo de Souza Lima:
> 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On 22.05.2012 14:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> >
> > > On 22.05.2012 14:47, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<or...@googlemail.com>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
> > > > > > > > Does
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I
> > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
> > > > > > > moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change
> > > > > > > (Oracle
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I
> > > > > > > removed
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message
> > > > > > > saying
> > > > > > > that no updates were available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo
> > > > > > 3.3
> > > > > > machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the test.
> > > > >
> > > > > The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be
> > > > > established,
> > > > > yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards, Oliver.
> > > > Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
> > > > but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check
> > > > the
> > > > "Enable password" option.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hm..
> > > As far as I know only one HTTP GET request is performed internally by AOO
> > > 3.4.
> > > May be due to the redirects more requests are made - I'll have to check
> > > it.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I have checked it.
> > Due to the redirect three HTTP GET request are performed.
> > The first goes to http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**
> > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>,
> > the second to http://openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>and the final one to
> > http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> > ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> > The same URLs that Andrea already figured out.
> >
> >
> > I think the "Remember password" option is part of your proxy software.
> > > Thus, I
> > > do not think that its functionality is related to AOO 3.4.
> > >
> >
> > May be each HTTP GET request needs to be authenticated in your proxy
> > software.
> >
> > Best regards, Oliver.
>
> Suggestion: maybe including fields for proxy user and password in Tools >
> Option > Internet > Proxy. An option for socks proxy shoud be usefull also.
>
>
I think it is already possible to configure a proxy. And in case no proxy is configured in the office the system proxy is used as far as I know. Maybe we have a minor problem here with the new WebDAV/http implementation.
But in general a proxy can be configured.
Juergen
>
> --
> Paulo de Souza Lima
> http://almalivre.wordpress.com
> Curitiba - PR
> Linux User #432358
> Ubuntu User #28729
>
>
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Posted by Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>.
2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
> Hi,
>
>
> On 22.05.2012 14:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> On 22.05.2012 14:47, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
>>
>>> 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<or...@googlemail.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>>>>>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change
>>>>>> (Oracle
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I
>>>>>> removed
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message
>>>>>> saying
>>>>>> that no updates were available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo
>>>>> 3.3
>>>>> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the test.
>>>>
>>>> The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be
>>>> established,
>>>> yet.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
>>> but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check
>>> the
>>> "Enable password" option.
>>>
>>>
>> Hm..
>> As far as I know only one HTTP GET request is performed internally by AOO
>> 3.4.
>> May be due to the redirects more requests are made - I'll have to check
>> it.
>>
>
> I have checked it.
> Due to the redirect three HTTP GET request are performed.
> The first goes to http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**
> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>,
> the second to http://openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>and the final one to
> http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
> The same URLs that Andrea already figured out.
>
>
> I think the "Remember password" option is part of your proxy software.
>> Thus, I
>> do not think that its functionality is related to AOO 3.4.
>>
>>
> May be each HTTP GET request needs to be authenticated in your proxy
> software.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
Suggestion: maybe including fields for proxy user and password in Tools >
Option > Internet > Proxy. An option for socks proxy shoud be usefull also.
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Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 22.05.2012 14:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> On 22.05.2012 14:47, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
>> 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<or...@googlemail.com>
>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>>>>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right? Does
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I am
>>>>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>>>>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle
>>>>> to
>>>>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed
>>>>> my
>>>>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message saying
>>>>> that no updates were available.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3
>>>> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the test.
>>>
>>> The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be established,
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>>
>>
>> Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
>> but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check the
>> "Enable password" option.
>>
>
> Hm..
> As far as I know only one HTTP GET request is performed internally by AOO 3.4.
> May be due to the redirects more requests are made - I'll have to check it.
I have checked it.
Due to the redirect three HTTP GET request are performed.
The first goes to
http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update, the
second to
http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update and
the final one to
http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
The same URLs that Andrea already figured out.
> I think the "Remember password" option is part of your proxy software. Thus, I
> do not think that its functionality is related to AOO 3.4.
>
May be each HTTP GET request needs to be authenticated in your proxy software.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 22.05.2012 14:47, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
> 2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<or...@googlemail.com>
>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>>>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right? Does
>>>>> the
>>>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I am
>>>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>>>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle
>>>> to
>>>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed
>>>> my
>>>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message saying
>>>> that no updates were available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3
>>> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the test.
>>
>> The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be established,
>> yet.
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>
> Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
> but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check the
> "Enable password" option.
>
Hm..
As far as I know only one HTTP GET request is performed internally by AOO 3.4.
May be due to the redirects more requests are made - I'll have to check it.
I think the "Remember password" option is part of your proxy software. Thus, I
do not think that its functionality is related to AOO 3.4.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Posted by Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>.
2012/5/22 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>
> Hi,
>
> On 22.05.2012 10:35, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:28:15 +0200 Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right? Does
>>>> the
>>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I am
>>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle
>>> to
>>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed
>>> my
>>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message saying
>>> that no updates were available.
>>>
>>>
>> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3
>> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>>
>>
> Thanks for the test.
>
> The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be established,
> yet.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
Hi. I tried here in my office, through an authenticated proxy. It works,
but it asks for the proxy user and password many times, even if I check the
"Enable password" option.
Cheers.
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Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 22.05.2012 10:35, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:28:15 +0200 Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
>>> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right? Does the
>>> update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect? I am
>>> asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>>
>> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
>> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle to
>> Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I removed my
>> redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a message saying
>> that no updates were available.
>>
>
> Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3
> machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
>
Thanks for the test.
The update service for installed OOo 3.3 instance has not be established, yet.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 22 May 2012 10:28:15 +0200
Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> > Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
> > have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
> > Does the update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect?
> > I am asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
>
> It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
> moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle
> to Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I
> removed my redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a
> message saying that no updates were available.
>
Worked very nicely for me using AOO 3.4. Will try later with an OOo 3.3 machine when it is awake. Congratulations!
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Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you
> have an own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
> Does the update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect?
> I am asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
It worked correctly. I had setup that redirect on my machine just to
moderate lists on the legacy infrastructure after the DNS change (Oracle
to Apache) had been completed; it is now useless of course. When I
removed my redirect, everything worked as expected and I received a
message saying that no updates were available.
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On 22.05.2012 09:43, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 21/05/2012 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> The redirect is established.
>> Thus, please check in your AOO 3.4 installation, if the update
>> functionality returns that your installation is up to date.
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>
> Works for me but the URLs are different. I had redirected openoffice.org
> (notice, no www) to another host and I kept getting an error, so I investigated.
>
> As one can see with wget, the current redirect is
> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
> ->
> http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
> ->
> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
> which works but is probably not the cleanest way. Also, it would likely be the
> first resource we use that depends on http://openoffice.org instead of
> http://www.openoffice.org (in Oracle times, the first one was used for Kenai
> resources, the second one was the website).
>
Thanks for testing.
Thus, you got an error in the AOO 3.4 update functionality, because you have an
own redirect from openoffice.org to another host. Right?
Does the update functionality works, if you do not have your own redirect?
I am asking in order to be sure that I got the right message.
I was not aware of the difference between <www.openoffice.org> and <openoffice.org>.
In the JIRA issue INFRA-4830 I had requested a redirect from [2] to [1].
But I got in direct contact with the infrastructure team on its IRC channel
#asfinfra in order to get guidance. The infrastructure team reacted quite fast -
they immediately established the redirect. I am not sure, if I had requested the
same redirect to openoffice.org/... or to www.openoffice.org/... in the IRC
chat. I will check it this the infrastructure team.
Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update
service
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 21/05/2012 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> The redirect is established.
> Thus, please check in your AOO 3.4 installation, if the update
> functionality returns that your installation is up to date.
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>> [2]
>>> http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
Works for me but the URLs are different. I had redirected openoffice.org
(notice, no www) to another host and I kept getting an error, so I
investigated.
As one can see with wget, the current redirect is
http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
->
http://openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
->
http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
which works but is probably not the cleanest way. Also, it would likely
be the first resource we use that depends on http://openoffice.org
instead of http://www.openoffice.org (in Oracle times, the first one was
used for Kenai resources, the second one was the website).
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On 21.05.2012 15:29, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 21.05.2012 13:55, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>>>>> <or...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> service for AOO 3.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The update URL for AOO 3.4 is:
>>>>>> http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**
>>>>>> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
>>>>>> (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=<pkgformat> for non-Windows platforms)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following
>>>>>> response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4:
>>>>>> Status: Checking for an update failed.
>>>>>> Description: General Internet error has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET request
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> above given URL is made:
>>>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>>>>>> <inst:description
>>>>>> xmlns:inst="http://**installation.openoffice.org/**description<http://installation.openoffice.org/description>
>>>>>> ">
>>>>>> </inst:description>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kay already made such an XML document available at:
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to
>>>>>> return to
>>>>>> the user that the version is up to date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a
>>>>>> redirection is
>>>>>> needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the
>>>>> requests so it loads that static file?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, as a short-term and fast solution.
>>>>
>>>> I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll
>>>>> need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable
>>>>> the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available
>>>>> for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with
>>>>> redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e.,
>>>>> a cgi script?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Static files would be possible, because each version has its own update
>>>> service
>>>> URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term.
>>>> Thus, some server-based logic would make sense.
>>>>
>>>> If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes
>>>>> sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today
>>>>> just always points to the "no update available" XML for AOO 3.4. But
>>>>> then we make it more complicated as we go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service for
>>>> OOo 3.3
>>>> installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic
>>>> would look
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody make this happen?
>>>>>> I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a
>>>>> JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need
>>>>> someone to develop that script first.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static approach
>>>> and would
>>>> ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already existing
>>>> static
>>>> file can be established.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ok, let us drive this issue a little bit more.
>>>
>>> For the static and short-term update service for AOO 3.4 I will do the
>>> following:
>>> - Creation of HTTP resource [1] provided the above given simple XML
>>> document
>>>
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> - Asking ASF Infrastructure via corresponding JIRA issue to redirect
>>> HTTP GET
>>> requests for URL [2] (Update URL of AOO 3.4) to URL [2]
>>>
>>
>> Done - https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/INFRA-4830<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4830>
>>
>>
> The infrastructure team was reacting very fast.
> The redirect is established.
>
> Thus, please check in your AOO 3.4 installation, if the update
> functionality returns that your installation is up to date.
>
Oliver--
Good for me! :)
"Up to date"
Linux 32-bit...
>
> Thanks in advance, Oliver
>
>
>
>>> [1] http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update38/**
>>> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update38/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
>>> [2] http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**
>>> ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>
>>>
>>>
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