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[jira] Updated: (HADOOP-3810) NameNode seems unstable on a cluster with little space left

     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-3810?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Raghu Angadi updated HADOOP-3810:
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    Description: 
NameNode seems not very responsive and unstable when the cluster has very little space left. The clients timeout. The main problem is that it is not clear the user what is going on. Once I have more details about a NameNode that was in this state, I will fill in here.

If there is not enough space left on a cluster, it is ok for clients to receive something like "DiskOutOfSpace" exception. 

Right now it looks like NameNode tries too hard find a node with any space left and ends up beeing slow to respond to clients. If the CPU take by chooseTarger() is the main reason, there two fixes possible :

# chooseTarget() iterates and takes quite a bit of CPU for allocating datanodes. Usually this not much of a problem. It takes even more cpu when it needs to search multiple racks for a datanode. We could probably reduce some CPU for these allocations. The benefit should be measurable.
# Once NameNode can not find any datanode that has space on a rack, it could mark the rack as "full" and skip searching the rack for next one minute or so. This flag gets cleared after a minute or if any new node is added to the rack.
#* Of course, this might not be optimal w.r.t disk space usage.. but only for a short duration. Once a cluster is mostly full, the user does expect errors.
#* On the flip side, this fix does not require extremely CPU optimized version of chooseTarget(). 
#* I think it is reasonable for NameNode to throw DiskOutOfSpace exception, even though it could have found space if it searched extensively.

 

  was:

NameNode seems not very responsive and unstable when the cluster has very little space left. The clients timeout. The main problem is that it is not clear the user what is going on. Once I have more details about a NameNode that was in this state, I will fill in here.

If there is not enough space left on a cluster, it is ok for clients to receive something like "DiskOutOfSpace" exception. 

Right now it looks like NameNode tries too hard find a node with any space left and ends up beeing slow to respond to clients. If the CPU take by chooseTarger() is the main reason, there two fixes possible :

# chooseTarget() iterates and takes quite a bit of CPU for allocating datanodes. Usually this not much of a problem. It takes even more cpu when it needs to search multiple racks for a datanode. We could probably reduce some CPU for these allocations. The benefit should be measurable.

# Also, once NameNode can not find any datanode that has space on a rack, it could mark the rack as "full" and skip searching the rack for next one minute or so. This flag gets cleared after a minute or if any new node is added to the rack.
#* Of course, this might not be optimal w.r.t disk space usage.. but only for a short duration. Once a cluster is mostly full, the user does expect errors.
#* On the flip side, this fix does not require extremely CPU optimized version of chooseTarget(). 
#* I think it is reasonable for NameNode to throw DiskOutOfSpace exception, even though it could have found space if it searched extensively.

 


> NameNode seems unstable on a cluster with little space left
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: HADOOP-3810
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-3810
>             Project: Hadoop Core
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: dfs
>    Affects Versions: 0.17.1
>            Reporter: Raghu Angadi
>            Assignee: Raghu Angadi
>
> NameNode seems not very responsive and unstable when the cluster has very little space left. The clients timeout. The main problem is that it is not clear the user what is going on. Once I have more details about a NameNode that was in this state, I will fill in here.
> If there is not enough space left on a cluster, it is ok for clients to receive something like "DiskOutOfSpace" exception. 
> Right now it looks like NameNode tries too hard find a node with any space left and ends up beeing slow to respond to clients. If the CPU take by chooseTarger() is the main reason, there two fixes possible :
> # chooseTarget() iterates and takes quite a bit of CPU for allocating datanodes. Usually this not much of a problem. It takes even more cpu when it needs to search multiple racks for a datanode. We could probably reduce some CPU for these allocations. The benefit should be measurable.
> # Once NameNode can not find any datanode that has space on a rack, it could mark the rack as "full" and skip searching the rack for next one minute or so. This flag gets cleared after a minute or if any new node is added to the rack.
> #* Of course, this might not be optimal w.r.t disk space usage.. but only for a short duration. Once a cluster is mostly full, the user does expect errors.
> #* On the flip side, this fix does not require extremely CPU optimized version of chooseTarget(). 
> #* I think it is reasonable for NameNode to throw DiskOutOfSpace exception, even though it could have found space if it searched extensively.
>  

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