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Summary: Unwanted Instance Manager Startup Shortcut
Product: Apache httpd-2
Version: 2.0.58
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Windows XP
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: Win32 MSI Installer
AssignedTo: bugs@httpd.apache.org
ReportedBy: OvdSpek@LIACS.NL
Hi,
The installer installs a shortcut to the instance manager in the startup group
without asking.
Could an option to disable this be added to the installer?
And even better, could that option be disabled by default?
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------- Additional Comments From OlafvdSpek@GMail.Com 2007-12-22 11:32 -------
No, I mean the Instance Manager, that sits in the tray. A shortcut for it used
to be installed in the Startup dir of the start menu, such that it got started
automatically after each login. However, I just did a fresh install of 2.2.6 and
can't find any shortcut to the instance manager.
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-23 10:01 -------
Very little difference if you are conversant with the SCM (service control
manager), although it lets you watch multiple machines at once. Because
some users are 'starting out', it's a handy tool (I use it often to manage
some 15 test installations of various flavors of httpd in development.)
I sort of disagree with it's 'coloring scheme' (I think one dead 'automatic'
service is too many, while a dead 'manual' service is never bad), and it's
just a little slow on the uptake about reporting services in transition (it
won't tell you as clearly about starting/stopping).
In full-view mode it provides some extra context about problems starting the
service, which is handy.
I should finally point out that with this change, it's actually possible to
install /only/ the ApacheMonitor (although why someone needs to do this is
sort of beyond me ;-)
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------- Additional Comments From OlafvdSpek@GMail.Com 2007-12-22 03:06 -------
> they need a way to get back in.
Yes, but there's no reason for that shortcut to be in the startup group.
A regular shortcut would work fine for that.
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-22 11:08 -------
Now we're talking, you suggest promoting into the regular Apache shortcut group,
instead of nesting in the control subgroup, right?
I'll tweak that for 2.2.7, thanks for the suggestion. Actually I had trouble
finding it burried in there when I fixed it (the shortcut had been broken for
a release or two).
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------- Additional Comments From OlafvdSpek@GMail.Com 2007-12-22 15:55 -------
Thanks. Still wondering though, what's the advantage of Apache Monitor compared
to the standard Windows Services interface?
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-22 15:52 -------
Decided you are right in that the ApacheMonitor is a seperate element of the
package...
custom install will let you optionally omit this in 2.2.7 - entirely (none
of the shortcuts that bothered you, and no ApacheMonitor.exe either).
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------- Additional Comments From OlafvdSpek@GMail.Com 2007-12-22 12:38 -------
> Those are called taskbar icon applications,
AFAIK the icons are in the (system) tray.
> I've restored it, and placed it under the Apache HTTP Server 2.2.7 shortcut
group instead of burring it under Apache HTTP Server 2.2.7 -> Control Services.
Does that mean it doesn't start automatically anymore?
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-22 12:54 -------
Ok - so to clarify, all the shortcuts were broken, you would see the
apachemonitor upon installation, and never after.
I totally agree that such can be annoying. This is why the startup group
is chosen over the HKxx/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Run,
which is much more insidious.
It will again create these shortcuts. However, it is not a 'key' resource.
If you remove this shortcut, the installer should not believe the package
has been broken. Since this is certainly not a common request, but a very
minority opinion, we'll leave things be.
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-22 12:36 -------
"I just did a fresh install of 2.2.6 and can't find any shortcut to the instance
manager."
Those are called taskbar icon applications, and the shortcut to it was
broken in 2.2.6 and sometime earlier (I mentioned it was broken).
I've restored it, and placed it under the Apache HTTP Server 2.2.7 shortcut
group instead of burring it under Apache HTTP Server 2.2.7 -> Control Services.
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------- Additional Comments From wrowe@apache.org 2007-12-21 21:51 -------
shortcuts can be trivially deleted, and when you give someone the option
to 'exit' the taskbar app, they need a way to get back in.
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