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Website changes for NB 11.1
Hi,
I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
know some changes are underway already.
At present the Downloads link goes directly to
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
eg something like.
# Download
Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
features.
## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
[Features][Download]
## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
[Features][Download]
## Older releases
Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
## Daily builds and building from source
All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
Thoughts?
Best wishes,
Neil
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AW: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Yes but the link says: Apache NetBeans Download page. Which is wrong, because the download link on the menu links to the specific release. So confusing. Anyway. I suggest the same that neil suggested. Download should go to download.
Offtopic don’t read:
Earlier I wanted to change it by my own but this is not my environment as a frontend developer so I didn’t do it. Maybe later, when David give more info about the new design and we decided to use it.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 12:15
An: dev
Betreff: Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:14 AM Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly
> to a specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site.
Take another look, you'll see it, the link to earlier releases.
Gj
> All versions are well present on the download page, so the users will see.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
> An: dev
> Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:14 AM Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly
> to a specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site.
Take another look, you'll see it, the link to earlier releases.
Gj
> All versions are well present on the download page, so the users will see.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
> An: dev
> Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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AW: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly to a specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site. All versions are well present on the download page, so the users will see.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
An: dev
Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1
Hi,
I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
know some changes are underway already.
At present the Downloads link goes directly to
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
eg something like.
# Download
Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
features.
## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
[Features][Download]
## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
[Features][Download]
## Older releases
Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
## Daily builds and building from source
All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
Thoughts?
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Awesome. Do it, exactly right.
Gj
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 11:03, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 09:42, huang kai <ib...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 and I think there should be a group of links that link to the older build of netbeans.
Thanks! Yes, my intention is for the [Find out more] button under
Older Releases to link across to a sub-page to group all those links
and related information. It should be on a sub-page though, because
the majority of visitors should not be downloading them.
I'll put together a website PR for this as and when the voting thread passes.
Best wishes,
Neil
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回复: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by huang kai <ib...@hotmail.com>.
+1 and I think there should be a group of links that link to the older build of netbeans.
________________________________
发件人: Josh Juneau <ju...@gmail.com>
发送时间: 2019年7月10日 19:08
收件人: Neil C Smith
抄送: dev
主题: Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
+1 I like your proposal for the website.
Josh Juneau
juneau001@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1
Posted by Josh Juneau <ju...@gmail.com>.
+1 I like your proposal for the website.
Josh Juneau
juneau001@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1. And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way. Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose. And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year. Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year. Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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