[WIKI-UPDATE] GetTogether2003Notes GT2003Michael Tue Oct 7 15:00:03 2003

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+ Michael Wechner: CMS with Cocoon: Lenya
+ 
+ Raw notes taken collaboratively during the talk.
+ 
+ !! Demo
+ Michael starts with a demo
+ 
+ ! A WebLog in Lenya
+ * HTML Form-based editor, basic, "going back" according to him
+ * Better editor, bitflux.ch, WYSIWYG, saves using webDAV or POST
+ * Or you could use OpenOffice.org, DocDook etc.
+ * Explicit publish operation allows for staging IIUC
+ 
+ ! The Lenya "default publication"
+ Mentions he doesn't like it very much.
+ 
+ ! Areas within Lenya
+ * Admin Area: manage users, groups, IP ranges etc.
+ * Site : the live website
+ * Authoring: Adding, editing documents
+ * Staging: does not exist yet?
+ * Live : (what's the diff between this and "Site")
+ 
+ Lenya Publications can be hierarchal, but do not have to be.
+ 
+ ! Sample Lenya publications
+ The Weblog, Default, Lenya documentation, OSCOM site and a fifth one are distributed with Lenya.
+ 
+ ! Architecture
+ Lenya Core and Lenya Publications.
+ 
+ Core: authentication, workflow, etc., tries to be as generic as possible, merged with Cocoon during the build process. Michael sees the core as a content management framework.
+ 
+ Users can take an existing publication and modify it for their own use by editing the XSLT and/or CSS.
+ 
+ Open-minded Lenya users could post their publications on a website for reuse by other Lenya developers/users.
+ 
+ ! Lenya Core
+ * Workflow
+ ** Defined in an XML file using a "transitions" concept
+ ** Can use or define ant tasks
+ * Access control
+ ** Unix-based or sitemap-based, including on-the-fly policy generation
+ ** Hope to merge this with the main Cocoon
+ * Versioning
+ ** simple system, exclusive checkout, checkin etc.
+ * Editor interfaces
+ ** Forms - based editor
+ ** WYSIWYG Client-side Javascript driven editor
+ * Content Creator / Deleter API
+ * Publisher API
+ ** Depending on requirements, Notifies, Distributes etc.
+ * Scheduler
+ ** Uses Quartz, want to re-use the Quartz block in Cocoon
+ * Search Engine
+ ** Uses Lucene, one index for the authoring area and another for the live area
+ 
+ ! Lenya Publications
+ Publications implement custom functionality.
+ 
+ One can either adapt an existing publication or create one from scratch.
+ 
+ Like a WAR file, can be downloaded and dropped into a directory.
+ 
+ Lenya finds publications from a properties file.
+ 
+ Letting each publication have its own build process is on the wishlist.
+ 
+ ! Ant Tasks
+ Used as much as possible inside Lenya, for example in
+ 
+ * Content Creator/Deleter
+ * Workflow
+ * Publisher
+ 
+ ! Flow
+ * User Management
+ * Group Management
+ * IP/Subnet Management
+ 
+ ! Roadmap
+ * Consolidation of core features
+ * Consolidation of sample publications
+ * WebDAV, Atom API, JSR-170 Repositories
+ * Multimedia / Data repository (Lookups)
+ * Event Calendar Publication
+ ** Lack of this in Lenya, is a common complaint from customers used to PHP-based solutions
+ 
+ ! Community
+ Michael is not happy with the current state of the Lenya community.
+ 
+ To bring more people in:
+ * Installation has to improve
+ * Sample Publications have to work properly
+ * Releases have to happen more regularly
+ * Documentation has to be better
+ * Leverage
+ 
+ ! Conclusion
+ * A lot of work
+ * Many Fights (on the mailing lists)
+ * ..no regrets
+ 
+ ! Q & A
+ Stefano: A lot of people ask him about Lenya. How much work is it to manage Cocoon's documents in Lenya? Using forest as a front end 
+ Michael: Pro. Lenya is customizeable to many needs. 
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