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Disappointed
I have read and sometimes participated in these postings and answers in
hopes of either finding answers to problems I am having or might have in
the future and found it a well organized and contained group.
I am disappointed though, in that I have posted a question in hopes of
help with a problem I am experiencing and notta zilch zap. No response
of any kind. So I posted it again and whappo, forget you. No answer. Is
it common to have to post several times before getting a response? Is
there a time delay because of the numerous amounts of threads? Is it
something I did?
I see a lot of really dumb things going through the postings and most of
the time I try to remember that I once new nothing of Tomcat too, and
that I still don't know very much and that no question is too dumb. Is
my question too dumb?
Have I been Black-Listed because I had a cruel response on one of those
days that I just couldn't hold it back anymore?
WASSUP???
Mike
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by David Smith <dn...@cornell.edu>.
Sorry you feel that way. I read your email. Never seen anything like
it in any of my installs and there isn't much info to base a diagnosis
on. So I didn't reply. If you want help, write better questions and
offer more info.
--David
Mike Sabroff wrote:
> I have read and sometimes participated in these postings and answers
> in hopes of either finding answers to problems I am having or might
> have in the future and found it a well organized and contained group.
> I am disappointed though, in that I have posted a question in hopes of
> help with a problem I am experiencing and notta zilch zap. No response
> of any kind. So I posted it again and whappo, forget you. No answer.
> Is it common to have to post several times before getting a response?
> Is there a time delay because of the numerous amounts of threads? Is
> it something I did?
> I see a lot of really dumb things going through the postings and most
> of the time I try to remember that I once new nothing of Tomcat too,
> and that I still don't know very much and that no question is too
> dumb. Is my question too dumb?
> Have I been Black-Listed because I had a cruel response on one of
> those days that I just couldn't hold it back anymore?
>
> WASSUP???
>
> Mike
>
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by Mike Sabroff <mi...@cygnusb2b.com>.
Thanks for the responses to this post! And by the way, funny how I got
answers to my original post after posting this...amaizing, and I am
truly sincere in thanking you for the link.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
good stuff!
Mike
Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> On 3/9/06, Frank W. Zammetti <fz...@omnytex.com> wrote:
>
>> Hehe, thanks for boiling my response down to a single line Leon! :) LOL
>>
>>
>
> You're welcome :-)
> saw the post, pasted the link, hit reply. If I'd had language skills
> so far developed as yours I would probably write the long explanation
> lines too. But my skills are far beyond yours, so I just throwed in
> the link :-)
>
>
>> Frank
>>
>
> Leon
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by Leon Rosenberg <ro...@googlemail.com>.
On 3/9/06, Frank W. Zammetti <fz...@omnytex.com> wrote:
> Hehe, thanks for boiling my response down to a single line Leon! :) LOL
>
You're welcome :-)
saw the post, pasted the link, hit reply. If I'd had language skills
so far developed as yours I would probably write the long explanation
lines too. But my skills are far beyond yours, so I just throwed in
the link :-)
> Frank
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Hehe, thanks for boiling my response down to a single line Leon! :) LOL
Frank
Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> :-)
> Leon
>
> On 3/9/06, Mike Sabroff <mi...@cygnusb2b.com> wrote:
>> I have read and sometimes participated in these postings and answers in
>> hopes of either finding answers to problems I am having or might have in
>> the future and found it a well organized and contained group.
>> I am disappointed though, in that I have posted a question in hopes of
>> help with a problem I am experiencing and notta zilch zap. No response
>> of any kind. So I posted it again and whappo, forget you. No answer. Is
>> it common to have to post several times before getting a response? Is
>> there a time delay because of the numerous amounts of threads? Is it
>> something I did?
>> I see a lot of really dumb things going through the postings and most of
>> the time I try to remember that I once new nothing of Tomcat too, and
>> that I still don't know very much and that no question is too dumb. Is
>> my question too dumb?
>> Have I been Black-Listed because I had a cruel response on one of those
>> days that I just couldn't hold it back anymore?
>>
>> WASSUP???
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> --
>> Mike Sabroff
>> Web Services
>> Developer
>> mike.sabroff@cygnusb2b.com
>> 920-568-8379
>>
>>
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by Leon Rosenberg <ro...@googlemail.com>.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
:-)
Leon
On 3/9/06, Mike Sabroff <mi...@cygnusb2b.com> wrote:
> I have read and sometimes participated in these postings and answers in
> hopes of either finding answers to problems I am having or might have in
> the future and found it a well organized and contained group.
> I am disappointed though, in that I have posted a question in hopes of
> help with a problem I am experiencing and notta zilch zap. No response
> of any kind. So I posted it again and whappo, forget you. No answer. Is
> it common to have to post several times before getting a response? Is
> there a time delay because of the numerous amounts of threads? Is it
> something I did?
> I see a lot of really dumb things going through the postings and most of
> the time I try to remember that I once new nothing of Tomcat too, and
> that I still don't know very much and that no question is too dumb. Is
> my question too dumb?
> Have I been Black-Listed because I had a cruel response on one of those
> days that I just couldn't hold it back anymore?
>
> WASSUP???
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Sabroff
> Web Services
> Developer
> mike.sabroff@cygnusb2b.com
> 920-568-8379
>
>
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Re: Disappointed
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
The Tomcat mailing list, like Tomcat itself, and like most open-source
projects in general, are volunteer efforts. People will answer what
they feel they can, when they can. You should start by having no
expectation of getting an answer because you in fact may not, because no
one knows the answer, because no one has the time to answer, or yes,
because your question was silly (I don't know what your question was, so
I cannot judge) or just because no one felt like answering. If people
deem your question to be something you should be able to answer yourself
without much trouble, you may not get an answer (or you may get a simple
RTFM answer).
As a volunteer endeavor, all of these are perfectly valid response, or
non-responses, as the case may be.
One thing to keep in mind is that the open-source community is sometimes
not the friendliest place. Being nice is not valued as much as
technical prowess is. Between you and me, it personally took me a good
deal of time to come to this understanding too. I value people being
cordial and helpful with each other, and I personally strive to bring
those qualities to any post I make (sometimes I succeed and sometimes I
don't!) but that is not a primary driver of a mailing list like this,
technical discussion is.
I think the de facto standard to go by is codified here:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Read this and you will understand the community-driven projects like
Tomcat a lot better I think and be able to interact better with them
with the proper expectations.
Frank
Mike Sabroff wrote:
> I have read and sometimes participated in these postings and answers in
> hopes of either finding answers to problems I am having or might have in
> the future and found it a well organized and contained group.
> I am disappointed though, in that I have posted a question in hopes of
> help with a problem I am experiencing and notta zilch zap. No response
> of any kind. So I posted it again and whappo, forget you. No answer. Is
> it common to have to post several times before getting a response? Is
> there a time delay because of the numerous amounts of threads? Is it
> something I did?
> I see a lot of really dumb things going through the postings and most of
> the time I try to remember that I once new nothing of Tomcat too, and
> that I still don't know very much and that no question is too dumb. Is
> my question too dumb?
> Have I been Black-Listed because I had a cruel response on one of those
> days that I just couldn't hold it back anymore?
>
> WASSUP???
>
> Mike
>
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