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[vote] demote plugins
Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
and delete them too).
Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
+1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
no outstanding issues:
ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
wizard - doesn't work
vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
tjdo - no maintainer
shell - no maintainer
outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
appserver - out of date, no maintainer
webserver - out of date, no maintainer
aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
caller - never used
struts - out of date, not being maintained
outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
jdeveloper - no maintainer
junitdoclet - no maintainer
latex - not being maintained
latka - not being maintained
Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
release:
- repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
- release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
- j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
- jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
- jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
- jira - not working, no maintainer?
- simian - not being maintained
- jdiff - not being maintained
Cheers,
Brett
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Felipe Leme <ma...@felipeal.net>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
+1 - I don't use any of them neither and I believe/agree what you said.
(my only exception would be Jira maybe - I used it a couple of months
ago and it seemed to be working fine, so I'm +0 for this one)
-- Felipe
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Re: SPAM: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@venisse.net>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
+1
Emmanuel
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Trygve Laugstøl <tr...@codehaus.org>.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 05:37:48PM +1000, Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
+1
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Vincent Siveton <vi...@gmail.com>.
+1 to all
Vincent
2005/6/11, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
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RE: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Jeff Jensen <je...@upstairstechnology.com>.
I as well use Simian and it works well. PMD's CPD report does the same, but
they give different output (which is a different issue! :-)
Not that I have a vote...+1 all too. I hope to see good info like "docbook
- superseded by the SF one" included on the doc pages for the plugins, and
why they are in the sandbox. E.g. I intend to use the docbook plugin soon,
and I say "thanks for the tip" to use the SF one instead. :-)
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From: Carlos Sanchez [mailto:carlossg@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [vote] demote plugins
+1
About jira and simian I'm using them to generate reports (although I don't
look them usually) and they are working correctly.
Regards
Carlos Sanchez
On 6/11/05, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with
> no open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work
> on a server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug
> project and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is
> no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that tjdo - no
> maintainer shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer webserver - out of date, no
> maintainer aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date caller - never
> used struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe javacc - experimental at
> best, no maintainer jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer junitdoclet - no maintainer latex - not
> being maintained latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact
> plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in
> future if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Carlos Sanchez <ca...@gmail.com>.
+1
About jira and simian I'm using them to generate reports (although I
don't look them usually) and they are working correctly.
Regards
Carlos Sanchez
On 6/11/05, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by John Casey <jd...@commonjava.org>.
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+1
This is a step in the right direction. These plugins can be revived if
someone is willing to maintain them, and presently they drag down the
perceived value of maven plugins as a whole. I know that in times past
I've been reluctant to try new plugins based on the mess that some other
plugins were (*cough* xdoclet *cough*). If this comes with a criteria
for inclusion of plugin projects (or at least a confidence rating about
the plugin's stability), I think we'll hit a point where people (like
me) are confident that they will be able to actually use the plugins
that are out there...
- -john
Brett Porter wrote:
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Stephane Nicoll <st...@gmail.com>.
On 6/14/05, Michal Maczka <mm...@interia.pl> wrote:
> Brett Porter wrote:
>
> > javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
>
> I am using javacc in production in couple of project and it actually
> works like charm for me (I am not using jjtree). Docs are definitly not
> up to date. I know that there is more people using it. So if I could
> cast no binding, user vote for that plugin it would be: -1.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice to ask users - how many of them are using plugins
> from your list?
> I guess that there is probably bit more people following the traffic on
> maven-user then on maven-dev list.
>
I am using JavaCC in production for two very important projects and it
would be a problem if you remove it.
So my -1 on this one.
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Michal Maczka wrote:
>
> I am using javacc in production in couple of project and it actually
> works like charm for me (I am not using jjtree). Docs are definitly
> not up to date. I know that there is more people using it. So if I
> could cast no binding, user vote for that plugin it would be: -1.
This is not about terminating plugins, but about improving the out of
the box usability. So while you might be using it - that's fine, and you
can continue to do so by downloading the last release, or building from
the sandbox. But until someone steps up to maintain it and document it,
I'd rather not have it in the core distribution. Of all the plugins, it
and probably "release" are the ones that had a specific complaint about
its roadworthiness from a user.
>
> Wouldn't it be nice to ask users - how many of them are using plugins
> from your list?
My original email said exactly that, and that's the step I'm taking now.
- Brett
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Michal Maczka <mm...@interia.pl>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with
> no open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work
> on a server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug
> project and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its
> development. An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is
> no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
I am using javacc in production in couple of project and it actually
works like charm for me (I am not using jjtree). Docs are definitly not
up to date. I know that there is more people using it. So if I could
cast no binding, user vote for that plugin it would be: -1.
Wouldn't it be nice to ask users - how many of them are using plugins
from your list?
I guess that there is probably bit more people following the traffic on
maven-user then on maven-dev list.
regards
Michal
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Trygve Laugstøl <tr...@codehaus.org>.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:08:44PM +0000, Lukas Theussl wrote:
> Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> >outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> >docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> >javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> >jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> >jdeveloper - no maintainer
> >junitdoclet - no maintainer
> >latex - not being maintained
> >latka - not being maintained
> >
>
> I don't know if I am entitled to vote but I find it a shame that the
> latex plugin should be removed. Even though I have never used it myself,
> I would certainly have done so if it would have worked properly. I am
> quite sure that it would be useful for a number of people.
>
> I'd have to take some time and have a closer look at it, but in
> principle I would be willing to take over its maintainance, if nobody
> else does so.
If you would like to take over this plugin I suggest you do so at the
Maven Plugins project at Source Forge[1]. If you tell Brett your sf user
id I'm sure Brett will add you to the project.
[1]: http://maven-plugins.sourceforge.net/
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Trygve
Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Lukas Theussl <tr...@triumf.ca>.
Brett Porter wrote:
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
I don't know if I am entitled to vote but I find it a shame that the
latex plugin should be removed. Even though I have never used it myself,
I would certainly have done so if it would have worked properly. I am
quite sure that it would be useful for a number of people.
I'd have to take some time and have a closer look at it, but in
principle I would be willing to take over its maintainance, if nobody
else does so.
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 17:37 +1000, Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
+1
> Cheers,
> Brett
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Re: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 17:37 +1000, Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with no
> open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work on a
> server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug project
> and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is no
> longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
+1
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
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Re: [result] demote plugins
Posted by Stephane Nicoll <st...@gmail.com>.
On 6/15/05, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> The following have been demoted:
> ashkelon, wizard, tjdo, shell, appserver, webserver, aspectwerkz,
> caller, struts, docbook, jdee, jdeveloper, junitdoclet, latex, latka
> Nobody piped up to object on the users list.
>
> javacc was spared on the account of Stephane and Michal's use of it. It
> moves to the borderline list. I'd really appreciate anyone actively
> using something on that list to step up and work through the JIRA
> issues, document it, or find it a new home.
>
I'll have a look at it and I will let you know.
Cheers,
Stéphane
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Re: [result] demote plugins
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
It should just be a simple cut and paste, so I can probably do that shortly. But
thanks for the offer.
I will also release tasklist (as it is obviously a condition of removing vdoclet :)
- Brett
Quoting Dennis Lundberg <de...@mdh.se>:
> Brett Porter wrote:
> > The following have been demoted:
> > ashkelon, wizard, tjdo, shell, appserver, webserver, aspectwerkz,
> > caller, struts, docbook, jdee, jdeveloper, junitdoclet, latex, latka
> > Nobody piped up to object on the users list.
> >
> > javacc was spared on the account of Stephane and Michal's use of it. It
> > moves to the borderline list. I'd really appreciate anyone actively
> > using something on that list to step up and work through the JIRA
> > issues, document it, or find it a new home.
> >
> > still to do: vdoclet integration with tasklist.
>
> I can have a go at folding vdoclet into tasklist, if nobody objects.
>
> --
> Dennis Lundberg
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brett
> >
> > Brett Porter wrote:
> >
> >> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> >> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with
> >> no open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work
> >> on a server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug
> >> project and delete them too).
> >>
> >> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> >> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its
> >> development. An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
> >>
> >> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> >> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> >> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is
> >> no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
> >>
> >> no outstanding issues:
> >> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> >> wizard - doesn't work
> >> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> >> tjdo - no maintainer
> >> shell - no maintainer
> >>
> >> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> >> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> >> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> >> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> >> caller - never used
> >> struts - out of date, not being maintained
> >>
> >> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> >> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> >> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> >> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> >> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> >> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> >> latex - not being maintained
> >> latka - not being maintained
> >>
> >> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> >> release:
> >> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact
> >> plugin)
> >> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> >> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
> >>
> >> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in
> >> future if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> >> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> >> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> >> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> >> - simian - not being maintained
> >> - jdiff - not being maintained
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett
> >>
> >>
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Re: [result] demote plugins
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@mdh.se>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> The following have been demoted:
> ashkelon, wizard, tjdo, shell, appserver, webserver, aspectwerkz,
> caller, struts, docbook, jdee, jdeveloper, junitdoclet, latex, latka
> Nobody piped up to object on the users list.
>
> javacc was spared on the account of Stephane and Michal's use of it. It
> moves to the borderline list. I'd really appreciate anyone actively
> using something on that list to step up and work through the JIRA
> issues, document it, or find it a new home.
>
> still to do: vdoclet integration with tasklist.
I can have a go at folding vdoclet into tasklist, if nobody objects.
--
Dennis Lundberg
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> Brett Porter wrote:
>
>> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
>> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with
>> no open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work
>> on a server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug
>> project and delete them too).
>>
>> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
>> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its
>> development. An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>>
>> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
>> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
>> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is
>> no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>>
>> no outstanding issues:
>> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
>> wizard - doesn't work
>> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
>> tjdo - no maintainer
>> shell - no maintainer
>>
>> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
>> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
>> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
>> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
>> caller - never used
>> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>>
>> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
>> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
>> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
>> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
>> jdeveloper - no maintainer
>> junitdoclet - no maintainer
>> latex - not being maintained
>> latka - not being maintained
>>
>> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
>> release:
>> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact
>> plugin)
>> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
>> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>>
>> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in
>> future if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
>> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
>> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
>> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
>> - simian - not being maintained
>> - jdiff - not being maintained
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>>
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Re: [result] demote plugins
Posted by Michal Maczka <mm...@interia.pl>.
Brett Porter wrote:
> The following have been demoted:
> ashkelon, wizard, tjdo, shell, appserver, webserver, aspectwerkz,
> caller, struts, docbook, jdee, jdeveloper, junitdoclet, latex, latka
> Nobody piped up to object on the users list.
>
> javacc was spared on the account of Stephane and Michal's use of it.
> It moves to the borderline list. I'd really appreciate anyone actively
> using something on that list to step up and work through the JIRA
> issues, document it, or find it a new home.
>
*mucios* *gracias!
michal*
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[result] demote plugins
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
The following have been demoted:
ashkelon, wizard, tjdo, shell, appserver, webserver, aspectwerkz,
caller, struts, docbook, jdee, jdeveloper, junitdoclet, latex, latka
Nobody piped up to object on the users list.
javacc was spared on the account of Stephane and Michal's use of it. It
moves to the borderline list. I'd really appreciate anyone actively
using something on that list to step up and work through the JIRA
issues, document it, or find it a new home.
still to do: vdoclet integration with tasklist.
Cheers,
Brett
Brett Porter wrote:
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be moved back
> to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with Maven 1.1. Any with
> no open bugs in JIRA will have their project deleted (we should work
> on a server side solution to toss all the others into a sandbox bug
> project and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining how you get
> the old releases, and what to do if you want to revive its
> development. An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below. Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open until it is
> no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact
> plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in
> future if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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RE: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org]
> Sent: samedi 11 juin 2005 09:38
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: [vote] demote plugins
[snip]
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works
> wizard - doesn't work
> vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer
> shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date
> caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe
> javacc - experimental at best, no maintainer
> jdee - no idea how to test it, no maintainer
> jdeveloper - no maintainer
> junitdoclet - no maintainer
> latex - not being maintained
> latka - not being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to artifact
> plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
+1 to all above.
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be culled in future
> if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
I'm using simian from time to time and jdiff is a plugin I'd love to use (I
think I've used it once or twice but it wasn't flexible enough and I
probably got to use jdiff directly from my maven.xml).
Basically, I'd love that we be able to keep simian/jdiff. I also think the
JIRA plugin should be kept and modified to generate a changes.xml file so
that all other plugins manipulating changes.xml files can be used
(announcement, xdocs, multichanges, etc).
Thanks
-Vincent
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RE: [vote] demote plugins
Posted by Arnaud HERITIER <ah...@gmail.com>.
+1
Arnaud
>
> Please vote on demoting the following plugins. They will be
> moved back to the sandbox, and will not be distributed with
> Maven 1.1. Any with no open bugs in JIRA will have their
> project deleted (we should work on a server side solution to
> toss all the others into a sandbox bug project and delete them too).
>
> Docs will be added to the backwards compat page explaining
> how you get the old releases, and what to do if you want to
> revive its development.
> An RFC will be sent to the user list first too.
>
> A single +1 indicates agreement to all of the below.
> Otherwise, please
> +1, -1 the individually. Any -1's will prevent that plugin from being
> demoted until we can resolve the issue. The vote is open
> until it is no longer Monday 13th in your part of the world.
>
> no outstanding issues:
> ashkelon - unmaintained, no idea if it works wizard - doesn't
> work vdoclet - only used by tasklist, will fold it into that
> tjdo - no maintainer shell - no maintainer
>
> outstanding issues, but nothing that requires being kept:
> appserver - out of date, no maintainer
> webserver - out of date, no maintainer
> aspectwerkz - no maintainer, out of date caller - never used
> struts - out of date, not being maintained
>
> outstanding issues - bugs & feature requests:
> docbook - superseded by the SF one, I believe javacc -
> experimental at best, no maintainer jdee - no idea how to
> test it, no maintainer jdeveloper - no maintainer junitdoclet
> - no maintainer latex - not being maintained latka - not
> being maintained
>
> Not to be removed now, but to get merged and removed by the final 1.1
> release:
> - repository - not being maintained (move upload-bundle to
> artifact plugin)
> - release - moved used functionality to SCM plugin
> - j2ee - depended on by struts and ear, move the tag into ear
>
> Borderline (not included in this vote, but likely to be
> culled in future if they don't get fixed and nobody volunteers):
> - jbuilder (not of same level as other IDE plugins)
> - jcoverage (replaced by Corbetura)
> - jira - not working, no maintainer?
> - simian - not being maintained
> - jdiff - not being maintained
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
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